# Entertainer most inversely hated by the general populace as they are liked by their cohorts.

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**Created:** [April 18, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660 "2018-04-18T20:42:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/41 "2018-04-19T18:54:01Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> You think you’re the best Jeff Beck fan?

Absolutely!! 😉

I think he’s the best, drawing the line from Eddie Lang, to Django, to Les Paul, who thought Jeff was the best and had Beck induct him into the RRHoFame.

But yes, he’s a guitarist’s guitarist and many folks at this point aren’t aware of him (or Eddie Lang, or Django, etc…)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/42 "2018-04-19T19:14:52Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Well…there is that voice ;).
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> But anyone who can make “the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown movies” is alright in my book.

That was a character. He doesn’t even know how to do the voice anymore. He mostly directs indies now. And yes his work is well respected.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/43 "2018-04-19T19:16:14Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> That was a character. He doesn’t even know how to do the voice anymore.

Though, I’d wager you that 90% of people who even know who he is, would only really know him for his work using that character / voice.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/44 "2018-04-19T19:20:28Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Though, I’d wager you that 90% of people who even know who he is, would only really know him for his work using that character / voice.

“I hate ferris wheels!!”

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/45 "2018-04-19T19:30:33Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Andy Kaufmann? I know people loved his character on **Taxi** , but they disliked his appearances on Saturday Night Live so much that he’s the only actor I know who got voted off the show in a popular poll. A lot of people liked his act, but I think more of them hated it. Yet he seemed well-liked by a lot of comedians.

I heard about an incident that occurred during Kaufman’s time on _Taxi_. He’d arranged for his alter ego, Tony Clifton, to appear in an episode. As I heard it, he showed up late and was generally a complete boorish asshole, got his costars pissed at him, and was fired. Then Kaufman showed up for the next episode as if nothing had happened. One source I checked just now claims that the whole Clifton thing was staged. Hard to know for sure what happened, but the admiration for Kaufman seems to come from other comics who respected him, bot not necessarily from those who worked with him.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/46 "2018-04-19T21:01:33Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I heard about an incident that occurred during Kaufman’s time on _Taxi_. He’d arranged for his alter ego, Tony Clifton, to appear in an episode. As I heard it, he showed up late and was generally a complete boorish asshole, got his costars pissed at him, and was fired. Then Kaufman showed up for the next episode as if nothing had happened. One source I checked just now claims that the whole Clifton thing was staged. Hard to know for sure what happened, but the admiration for Kaufman seems to come from other comics who respected him, bot not necessarily from those who worked with him.

I think his biggest joke was that he wasn’t in the Clifton suit some of the time. He wanted people to believe he was in there the whole time, but his personal practical joke is that sometimes, it was his friend, Bob Zmuda.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/47 "2018-04-19T21:01:59Z")

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Wouldn’t say I’m a Fallon hater but I do find him annoying most of the time.  
-He seems to think he’s pretty hilarious.  
-His breaking character on SNL always felt fake to me but people loved it and he made it part of his schtick.  
-I think other celebs like him because he constantly strokes their egos, like non-stop. Make me want to gag.  
-He’ll never let a guest do a comedy sketch/skit unless he can insert himself in it also.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/48 "2018-04-19T21:41:16Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> I think there are a lot of pro wrestlers who fit this niche perfectly. All the bad guy “heel” wrestlers who are actually liked and respected in the locker rooms.
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> Seem to remember a few from the 80s with that reputation, but there are probably posters here who know a lot more about that scene than I who can provide some examples.

And today you have Roman Reigns and the fleeting John Cena. Supposedly faces, but super hated by what seems to be a large segment of the crowd.

> [@PastTense](#):
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> I’m surprised so many of you know who is liked by insiders. For example a lot of the public (including myself) don’t like Adam Sandler–but certainly not the majority as he wouldn’t get such high salaries if that were true–but I have no idea how insiders feel about him.

He’s hated by the “too cool for school” types that just like to jump on the hate bandwagon for no real reason. I’d bet 90% of the people hating on, say, Jack & Jill, never even saw it. It’s a good turn off your brain comedy.

As for “insiders” he has a lot of friends and supposedly treats them very well, really spreads the wealth and such.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/49 "2018-04-19T23:43:18Z")

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> [@Daddypants](#):
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> Harvey Weinstein C’mon… you gotta know he still has friends all over Hollywood, even if it’s in private.

Even before his sexual harassment claims were made public, I never got the impression Weinstein was well-liked in Hollywood. From the stories I read about him, he was someone you best dealt with only if you had to and if you had to deal with him, you did so gingerly. On the other hand, was he feared? Definitely (especially if you were an actress).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/50 "2018-04-20T00:11:31Z")

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The mention of Weinstein reminded me of this one: somehow, Roman Polanski apparently [still has a lot of defenders in the movie industry](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/30/hollywood-reverence-child-rapist-roman-polanski-convicted-40-years-on-run).

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/51 "2018-04-20T01:01:11Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Absolutely agree. +1
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> My pick is Justin Bieber.

I’ve never heard of Bieber being a nice guy in person – quite the opposite.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I don’t know about others, but I based my statement on the fact that I interacted with many of these people for several years, socially or at work. Those I didn’t interact with directly, I heard about because I was in a position to talk to people who knew.
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> I didn’t personally like Drew Barrymore, so I’m happy to dish on her. Others I do like, and I won’t discuss.
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> Another person that I just thought of is Betty White. People seem to love her and I can tell you that she’s a flat out bitch; very talented but nasty.

I think that makes the two the opposite of this thread – it’s about celebs who AREN’T popular, but are actually very nice individuals.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainer-most-inversely-hated-by-the-general-populace-as-they-are-liked-by-their-cohorts/812660/52 "2018-04-20T01:11:30Z")

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If a celeb is adored by the public and hated by their cohorts, that meets the OP’s criteria of an inverse relationship.

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