# Entertainment Weekly's Top 25 Sci-Fi Movies/TV Shows of the Last 25 Years **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108 "2007-05-07T15:11:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/41 "2007-05-09T17:57:36Z")
[QUOTE=happywaffle] And did I miss something, or did they exclude Alien in favor of Aliens? Those movies should have shared a spot. [/QUOTE] You missed something: _Alien_ was made in 1979, more than 25 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/42 "2007-05-09T18:03:29Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] I see that abominable Verhoeven flick lissener likes, whose name I refuse to even type lest I seem to be associating it with the Dean’s work, is on the list. [QUOTE] No, the abominable Verhoeven flick that \*\*lissener \*\* likes is called _Showgirls_. ---
**Author:** ![happywaffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ee59a6/32.png) [@happywaffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happywaffle)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/43 "2007-05-09T18:27:51Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver] You missed something: _Alien_ was made in 1979, more than 25 years ago. [/QUOTE] Doh! So I did. (1979?! Wow…) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/44 "2007-05-09T18:28:03Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] Including Starship Troopers was a huge travesty. [/QUOTE] As the writer said, people either love it or hate it. I enjoyed it for what it was, a parody of fascism, especially the fascism that pervades the book. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/45 "2007-05-09T18:31:20Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] The attack of the clones has done its part in keeping Episodes 1 - 3 off the list… Unless I’m missing some kind of odd criteria for selection to this list, it’s ridiculous that at least one of these aren’t on the list. [/QUOTE] Evidently you are missing the selection criteria, which weren’t “worst declines of a once-promising franchise”. > [@](#): > > Lastly, _Starship Troopers_ should be higher. Absolutely – it should have a number higher than 25 (Avagadro’s, perhaps), thus preventing it from polluting the list and freeing up a space for any of a large number of movies that actually deserve a place (_12 Monkeys_, _Gattaca_,… ah, if I tried to include the name of everything more deserving than that crap I’d overload the server). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/46 "2007-05-09T18:46:19Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] As the writer said, people either love it or hate it. I enjoyed it for what it was, a parody of fascism, especially the fascism that pervades the book. [/QUOTE] You really need to get a new dictionary if you think the book was “fascist.” IMO, #1, 4, 6, 11, 14, 16, 17, & 19 ought to be ranked somewhere in the high hundreds, not in the Top 25. And I agree completely with **Steve MB** about Star Wars. _Attack of the Clones_ was good SF. Episodes 1-3 weren’t. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/47 "2007-05-09T18:53:38Z")
I find much of 50s Heinlein to have fascist overtones. Then he entirely stopped caring about anybody else and went for amoral libertarianism. Heinlein was a self-centered jerk and he rolled around in his jerkitude whenever he sat in front of a typewriter. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/48 "2007-05-09T19:11:23Z")
[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux] [QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] I see that abominable Verhoeven flick lissener likes, whose name I refuse to even type lest I seem to be associating it with the Dean’s work, is on the list. > [@](#): > > No, the abominable Verhoeven flick that \*\*lissener \*\* likes is called _Showgirls_. Actually, it is both of them. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/49 "2007-05-09T19:16:37Z")
No _Babylon 5_? That invalidates anything they have to say. No \*Dark City \*or _12 Monkeys_? That just confirms it. _Stargate_? _Farscape_? _Gattacca_?\* V for Vendetta\*?\* Equilibrium\*? Hell, I’d put _Ultraviolet_(the TV series) on a list like that before some of the crap on it. And still no love for \*Total Recall- 2070 \*, I see. Am I the only one who cares? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/50 "2007-05-09T19:28:26Z")
**Stargate SG-1** should really be up there. The first couple of seasons weren’t all that great, but once it hit its stride it became much better than ANY of the Star Trek series, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108/51 "2007-05-09T21:43:30Z")
> [@](#): > > The one that would absolutely be top five for me is Jurassic Park. It and Terminator 2 were the early-90s fenceposts from which all future special effects were hung. (weak metaphor but you know what I mean) For my money, JP was Spielberg at the top of his game. An excellent point. _Jurassic Park_ proved that you could seamlessly integrate fully-computerized effects into a live-action movie, and every movie since then (even non-effects-driven movies) has followed that lead. And it was still a good movie, in the process. _Jurassic Park_ belongs on the list. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entertainment-weeklys-top-25-sci-fi-movies-tv-shows-of-the-last-25-years/403108.md?page=2)