# Entomologists, what kind of hornet/wasp was this?

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**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [September 26, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962 "2016-09-26T19:38:01Z")
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### Author: ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/1 "2016-09-26T19:38:01Z")

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I saw [this thing](https://imgur.com/a/5jmnG) on the pavement the other day. She is big (a bit longer than an inch I would say), so I assumed some kind of hornet, but all the photos of [hornets](http://www.scstatebeekeepers.org/Resources/Documents/Master%20Beekeeper%20Program/Posters%20for%20Teaching/Yellow%20Jacket,%20Bald%20Face%20hornet,%20European%20Hornet.jpg) on the internet have [more yellow](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Vespa_crabro_germana_with_prey_Richard_Bartz_Crop.jpg) abdoments.

Any thoughts?

I have seen a lot of them buzzing around a tree outside my window at work.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/2 "2016-09-26T19:42:28Z")

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Yellowjacket or hornet, yep. Not sure exactly what species.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/3 "2016-09-26T19:45:33Z")

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There’s a lot more species of hornets than that.

You don’t say where you are, but here’s [a key to eastern hornets of the genus Vespula](http://cjai.biologicalsurvey.ca/bmc_05/key_vespula.html)with illustrations.

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### Author: ![Stana\_Claus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stana_claus/32/13874_2.png) [@Stana\_Claus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stana_Claus)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/4 "2016-09-26T19:46:17Z")

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Cicada Killer? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius\_speciosus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius_speciosus)

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/5 "2016-09-26T19:48:31Z")

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> [@Stana\_Claus](#):
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> Cicada Killer? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius\_speciosus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius_speciosus)

That looks like a pretty good match to me.

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### Author: ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/6 "2016-09-28T01:45:02Z")

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> [@Stana\_Claus](#):
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> Cicada Killer? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius\_speciosus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius_speciosus)

> [@Colibri](#):
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> That looks like a pretty good match to me.

Looks specious to me.

\<d&r\>:D

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### Author: ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/entomologists-what-kind-of-hornet-wasp-was-this/766962/7 "2016-09-28T03:38:21Z")

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That’s a great picture.

Occasionally I get one of those pretty blue mud daubers lazily flying around the house. I don’t mind them since they’re not aggressive. Can usually either catch it or get it to go back out a window or door.
