# Eowyn, Arwen, or Galadriel? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 27, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448 "2009-07-27T17:15:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/41 "2009-07-27T22:31:50Z")
> [@Astroboy14](#): > > Eowyn next because I would yell “I’ll be boinked by no man!” and she’d be all like “I am NO man!” and rip off her clothes. _Snort_ ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/42 "2009-07-27T22:36:50Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Sorry. > > Appropriate smiley: 😛 😛 😛 > > My other half wants to know - what about Rosie??? I thought about including her, actually. But I decided against it partly because I didn’t want to overdo the options; partly because I figured that most people would have be visualizing Blanchett, Otto, & Tyler from the movies, and few people would have a mental image of the actress who played Rosie; and partly because I wanted to leave the meaning of “A, B, or C” ambiguous. Rosie is so minor a character that, while some might say, “Hey, that chick who played here is hot!” nobody was likely to say, “I want to be her.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/43 "2009-07-28T00:11:36Z")
> [@](#): > > My other half wants to know - what about Rosie??? She would be my first choice, too, but Sam would kill me if I tried anything. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/44 "2009-07-28T00:16:21Z")
Who knows anything about Arwen anyway? AFAIKR, she doesn’t get a single line of dialogue in the books. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/45 "2009-07-28T00:17:13Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I thought about including her [Rosie]. You should have. Tell you what, throw in Mrs. Maggot, too. They can have a 34.5 while I’m busy with the other three. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/46 "2009-07-28T00:32:29Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Arwen is Galadriel’s granddaughter, so that’s just ooky. Not if you are from West Lorien. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/47 "2009-07-28T00:38:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Who knows anything about Arwen anyway? AFAIKR, she doesn’t get a single line of dialogue in the books. She says one or two mildly trite things at the very end, when everyone is all about to leave Gondor, doesn’t she? Can’t recall, and as I’ve proven in other Tolkein threads, my mind isn’t as sharp as it once’t was. ☹ My choice: Galadriel. Not saying what for, or why, or even what question she is the answer to. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/48 "2009-07-28T01:25:48Z")
Boy, that’s a toughie. Each of the actresses who played Arwen, Galadriel and Eowyn in the Jackson movies has her charms, to be sure. Hmmmm. Think think think. From both the books and the movies, I think I’d give the edge to… Arwen. She’s described by Tolkien as quite beautiful, calm, wise and generous. Galadriel’s so old and powerful that I think she’d be a bit intimidating. Eowyn is beautiful and spunky but just never caught my imagination the way Arwen did. She also has an emo side that doesn’t appeal to me. That said, frankly, I think “Arwen” is one of Tolkien’s _least_ attractive female names. Incidentally, in **What Exit?**'s LOTR D&D game thread, now on hiatus, my character has long been wooing Arwen’s second daughter, Gilraen (this is 60+ years after the fall of Sauron). My mental image of Gilraen is pretty much Keira Knightley, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/49 "2009-07-28T02:15:53Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > My other half wants to know - what about Rosie??? Sorry, had her all through high school… 😃 … TRM (and her five sisters!) ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/50 "2009-07-28T03:53:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Who knows anything about Arwen anyway? AFAIKR, she doesn’t get a single line of dialogue in the books. She speaks in “The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen” in Appendix A (to which I made a glancing reference in post #28). Some of the “added” Arwen scenes in the films were based on this short story, although the time span was rearranged and greatly compressed. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/51 "2009-07-28T04:01:55Z")
Eowyn. I don’t know what elf lady-parts are like. At least we know for sure that Eowyn is a woman. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/52 "2009-07-28T05:16:01Z")
Eowyn, absolutely. Girl is beautiful and fucking badass. Galadriel and Arwen can go their fading elf act somewhere else, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/53 "2009-07-28T13:51:56Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Eowyn. > > I don’t know what elf lady-parts are like. At least we know for sure that Eowyn is a woman. Sure we know what elf-lady parts are like. There were several marriages between Elda and Adan (or Dunadan), all of which resulted in children, if I recall aright. Elves are biologically human; their greater lifespan and superior (in some ways) physical attributes are due to a difference in their spiritual nature. ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/54 "2009-07-28T14:36:05Z")
So, I forget: Have we done an “Aragorn, Faramir or Boromir” thread yet? Any takers? Feel free to change up the names as to your pervy predilections. ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/55 "2009-07-28T18:22:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > She would be my first choice, too, but Sam would kill me if I tried anything. You are an evil, evil man. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/56 "2009-07-28T18:39:18Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > So, I forget: Have we done an “Aragorn, Faramir or Boromir” thread yet? Any takers? Feel free to change up the names as to your pervy predilections. Please? Can someone start this? ---
**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/57 "2009-07-28T18:49:02Z")
Decisions, decisions. When in doubt, see what gloss the Harvard Codex has on it: > [@](#): > > The leader, shorter than the others by a head, looked at them suspiciously through twin monocles and brandished a battlemop. It was then that the company realized that the leader was a woman, a woman whose ample breastplate hinted at a figure of some heft. “I ist Eorache, daughter of Eorlobe, Captain of der Rubbermark und Thane of Chowder. Dot means you ist nice to me or you ist nothing to nobody no more,” said the ruddy faced warrior. > [@](#): > > “Do you like what you doth see…?” said the voluptuous elf-maiden as she provocatively parted the folds of her robe to reveal the rounded, shadowy glories within. Frito’s throat was dry, though his head reeled with desire and ale. > > “But I’m so small and hairy, and…and you’re so beautiful,” Frito whimpered, slipping clumsily out of his crossed garters. Gotta count that as a vote for elves. [sub]OTOH, it just doesn’t seem likely that the Codex guys would have known what to do with a woman if they stumbled over one on the way to the dorms.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/58 "2009-07-28T18:51:31Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Please? Can someone start this? Dearest **Mika** , It’s not really clear to me why you or **well, he’s back** didn’t open it, but it doesn’t matter. [You know I can deny you nothing.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11386495#post11386495) But I had to add Eomer, as he’s at least as important as Boromir (if not more so) and also to compensate for the fest of wankitude that is movie-Aragorn. Actually I like Viggo’s performance quite a bit. I just felt like typing _fest of wankitude_. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/59 "2009-07-28T19:25:15Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Dearest **Mika** , It’s not really clear to me why you or **well, he’s back** didn’t open it, but it doesn’t matter. ] I didn’t open it for a number of reasons, not least of which is I rarely open threads around here (or anywhere) anymore. I don’t really like being the “parent” of a thread anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448/60 "2009-07-28T20:10:15Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I didn’t open it for a number of reasons, not least of which is I rarely open threads around here (or anywhere) anymore. I don’t really like being the “parent” of a thread anymore. I’m sure you have your reasons. It saddens me, though, that you made no comment on the phrase _fest of wankitude_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eowyn-arwen-or-galadriel/504448.md?page=4)