# Epic facebook meltdown from Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341 "2013-05-14T19:14:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/241 "2013-05-22T15:39:16Z")
From the article linked in post 235: > [@](#): > > [T]he couple have received numerous online death threats, forcing them to cancel a planned press conference at their re-launch — along with a threatening legal letter from Kitchen Nightmares production that could cost them up to $200,000. > > The source tells Radar that Amy and Samy are excited about the re-launch, but that Amy in particular is nervous because of the online death threats they’ve been bombarded with — comparing herself to congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords who was shot during a public appearance. > > “Amy hears press conference, is receiving harassment by the second and comes from Gabrielle Giffords’ state,” the insider told Radar. > > “Death threats plus a press conference doesn’t sound like the hottest idea!” ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/242 "2013-05-22T15:40:45Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > If the restaurant sticks to pizza and sandwiches they could possibly ride it out and limp along. The problem comes when she actually have to cook - burgers, salmon cakes, and the like. The food doesn’t look horrible. It just doesn’t look outstanding in any way. You can get the same from CPK or Panera and it’ll be probably of comparable quality. When you say the food doesn’t look horrible, what are you looking at? Most of the food photos on their website and yelp! were stolen and/or stock photos. Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/243 "2013-05-22T15:41:15Z")
Never cross the Pita Jungle Mafia! And I wouldn’t lay down any money on whether or not those “death threats” actually exist. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/244 "2013-05-22T15:59:49Z")
> [@bup](#): > > When you say the food doesn’t look horrible, what are you looking at? > > Most of the food photos on their website and yelp! were stolen and/or stock photos. The picture of the leftovers from the Phoenix New Times article linked about the grand opening. [http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/leftovers\_ABC.JPG](http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/leftovers_ABC.JPG) > [@](#): > > Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. I would say that’s an easy fix but from what I gather she’s not receptive to any sort of criticism however simple it would to enact. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/245 "2013-05-22T16:00:15Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > If the restaurant sticks to pizza and sandwiches they could possibly ride it out and limp along. The problem comes when she actually have to cook - burgers, salmon cakes, and the like. The food doesn’t look horrible. It just doesn’t look outstanding in any way. You can get the same from CPK or Panera and it’ll be probably of comparable quality. I wonder if she makes the salmon cakes or defrosts them. And really, the burger that they gave Ramsay looked pretty disgusting. Not because of the unusual ingredients, but because it was a wet, sloppy mess. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/246 "2013-05-22T16:03:07Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. Really? I’ve never noticed my favorite pizzeria putting the pizza in the wood-fired oven twice. Seems like they roll out the dough, put on the toppings, then bake. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/247 "2013-05-22T16:04:59Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Really? I’ve never noticed my favorite pizzeria putting the pizza in the wood-fired oven twice. Seems like they roll out the dough, put on the toppings, then bake. Well, they’re probably not putting toppings on a frozen pie. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/248 "2013-05-22T16:37:34Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > > [@bup](#): > > > > Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. > > Really? I’ve never noticed my favorite pizzeria putting the pizza in the wood-fired oven twice. Seems like they roll out the dough, put on the toppings, then bake. I’ve never seen it done that way either. And I worked at Chuck E Cheese for a summer making pizza and always put the whole pizza in the conveyer belt oven at once. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/249 "2013-05-22T18:33:07Z")
Looks like his past does include all sorts of thuggish behavior. He’s banned from France and Germany, and is facing deportation from the US. [http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/317831/10/Amys-Baking-Company-co-owner-Samy-Bouzaglo-faces-deportation-lawyer-says-its-unrelated-to-Gordon-Ramsays-Kitchen-Nightmares-appearance](http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/317831/10/Amys-Baking-Company-co-owner-Samy-Bouzaglo-faces-deportation-lawyer-says-its-unrelated-to-Gordon-Ramsays-Kitchen-Nightmares-appearance) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/250 "2013-05-22T19:12:15Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > This just gets better and better. Drug distribution and extortion? Yeah, there’s no way that guy has ever laundered any money. :rolleyes: > > Also, managing to get yourself permanently barred from entering both France and Germany is impressive. The article currently linked doesn’t mention drug distribution, extortion, or being barred from entering any countries. Either it’s been changed, or I hit the wrong link. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/251 "2013-05-22T19:45:01Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > The article currently linked doesn’t mention drug distribution, extortion, or being barred from entering any countries. Either it’s been changed, or I hit the wrong link. It isn’t mentioned within the article but in the video. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/252 "2013-05-23T02:26:20Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. That sounds more like what happens when somebody tries to _broil_ a pizza. I had a roommate do that once with a frozen pizza. Put it in the oven and set it to “Broil” (i.e. the heat is coming from the top, not the bottom). Burned the crap out of the top, while the crust was insufficiently cooked. If the heat is coming from below, it will cook the crust and the surrounding heat will melt the cheese and heat the toppings just fine. Use the broiler, and you’ll burn the top without cooking the crust. I worked years ago at both Godfather’s and Pizza Hut, and yeah, we put the whole, assembled pizza in all in one go. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/253 "2013-05-23T02:54:29Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Regarding pizza, she doesn’t seem to know that toppings need to be added after the pizza dough has cooked for a bit. A recurring theme in reviews is that the topping is burned and the pizza dough is still raw. That’s _a_ way of making pizza but not the typical way of making pizza, in my experience. Usually, raw dough and ingredients are placed and cooked in one go. Almost every pizzeria I go to, whether a standard 400-500F deck oven to a wood-or-coal fired 700-1000F+ oven does it this way. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/254 "2013-05-23T03:17:48Z")
Yeah, theoretically, her technique looks fine from what I saw. I would dearly love to have seen her actually prepare something from start to finish because I’m also dying to know what exactly she’s doing that making a pizza takes her the better part of an hour. ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/255 "2013-05-23T03:41:29Z")
Ladies and gentleman, I offer you this from youtube: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BfD8L1euBuk/maxresdefault.jpg "Crazy Amy's Baking Company (Kitchen Nightmares Parody) - Jaxamoto") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk) My Fella found it and we laughed like hell. ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/256 "2013-05-23T04:18:28Z")
That is fricking awesome, BrassyPhrase. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/257 "2013-05-23T04:26:08Z")
> [@ENugent](#): > > That is fricking awesome, BrassyPhrase. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/258 "2013-05-23T06:18:14Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Wow. It just gets better and better. The owners take the tips? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Not unique. The “Yummy Bites” restaurant in Athens, Georgia was doing that as of last summer. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/259 "2013-05-23T23:04:15Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > It isn’t mentioned within the article but in the video. Ah. Thanks, I’ll have to check it at home. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/260 "2013-05-23T23:45:01Z")
> [@BrassyPhrase](#): > > Ladies and gentleman, I offer you this from youtube: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk) Brilliant! Thanks for sharing, **BrassyPhrase**! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=14)