# Epic facebook meltdown from Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 14, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341 "2013-05-14T19:14:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/281 "2013-06-01T03:25:32Z")

</div>

The sad thing is that those people will just open another place and keep doing what they were.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/282 "2013-06-01T03:30:00Z")

</div>

> [@Mr.Slant](#):
>
> Once she’s no longer hot, Amy has all the makings of a crazy cat lady.

Hot? Her personality makes her as attractive as someone that oozes pus from there face through every pore.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/283 "2013-06-01T03:32:52Z")

</div>

> [@Mr.Slant](#):
>
> Since Samy almost undoubtedly actually owns the place, in that young girl’s shoes I’d be tempted to tell Amy that I needed to hear that from both of them before I left.

Good lord, Samy’s as afraid of Amy as everyone else is! You could see it in his eyes during the extremely uncomfortable final meeting with Gordon and the way he deflects all criticism of the food away from her hearing about it. Do you really think he’s going to countermand a firing from her?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/284 "2013-06-01T04:06:16Z")

</div>

> [@jayjay](#):
>
> Good lord, Samy’s as afraid of Amy as everyone else is! You could see it in his eyes during the extremely uncomfortable final meeting with Gordon and the way he deflects all criticism of the food away from her hearing about it. Do you really think he’s going to countermand a firing from her?

It has got to be the sex that Amy gives Samy, the mind-blowing sex, the toe-curling, spasm-inducing sex, the jolly, candy-like…ahem. 🙂 There is no other explanation for why a guy like Samy would let an obvious airhead call the shots in the restaurant.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/285 "2013-06-01T04:07:49Z")

</div>

> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
>
> It has got to be the mind-blowing sex that Amy gives Samy, the toe-curling, spasm-inducing sex. There is no other explanation for why a guy like Samy would let an obvious airhead call the shots in the restaurant.

Maybe immigration laws? :dubious:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/286 "2013-06-01T04:35:56Z")

</div>

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
>
> I’m not sure how you make the connection between a two-bit, televised tantrum and one of the greatest scenes in movie history.

It was in response to " I weep for our civilization. " That film predicted the fall of all that was decent and honest and clear about television. Because there used to be moments of decency, honesty and clarity.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/287 "2013-06-01T05:00:49Z")

</div>

> [@jayjay](#):
>
> Good lord, Samy’s as afraid of Amy as everyone else is! You could see it in his eyes during the extremely uncomfortable final meeting with Gordon and the way he deflects all criticism of the food away from her hearing about it. Do you really think he’s going to countermand a firing from her?

Good call, I was projecting sanity onto a situation without it.  
I saw that during that scene he clearly DID NOT want the girl fired. That’s miles from “he will stand up to his insane wife” though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/288 "2013-06-01T05:18:26Z")

</div>

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
>
> It was in response to " I weep for our civilization. " That film predicted the fall of all that was decent and honest and clear about television. Because there used to be moments of decency, honesty and clarity.

I’ll accept that. I saw _Network_ when it came out and thought it was satire, saw it in the '90s and thought it was a documentary, and saw it this decade and thought it was starry-eyed nostalgia.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/289 "2013-07-05T22:26:00Z")

</div>

And here’s the crazy [contract](http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/amyskitchencontract.pdf) they make the staff sign. IANAL, but is #20 even enforceable? I thought non-compete clauses only applied in the even of resignation, not termination.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/290 "2013-07-06T00:16:03Z")

</div>

My favorites are:

#5) Any type of attitude will result in immediate termination

(even a positive attitude?)

and

#9) At no point is any food or any type of open beverage allowed in the kitchen.

(even she admits that what they make is not “food”).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/291 "2013-07-06T00:16:55Z")

</div>

> [@alphaboi867](#):
>
> And here’s the crazy [contract](http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/amyskitchencontract.pdf) they make the staff sign. IANAL, but is #20 even enforceable? I thought non-compete clauses only applied in the even of resignation, not termination.

The only restaurant non-compete agreement I’ve ever seen in 30 years was when I applied for a management position with a chain restaurant. And it only applied to going to work somewhere else _and using the chain’s recipes_. Even the chain restaurant didn’t go so far as to say I couldn’t _work_ in any other restaurant if I left.

(I didn’t actually get the job - I had to sign all this non-disclosure/non-compete stuff before the interview even started.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/292 "2013-07-06T00:46:19Z")

</div>

…I’m pretty sure it’s not legal to fine an employee for tardiness or broken plates.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/293 "2013-07-06T01:18:31Z")

</div>

i’d also wonder about the legality of charging a $250 fine for no showing a shift. i mean, what the actual fuck?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/294 "2013-07-06T01:47:30Z")

</div>

> [@expectopatronum](#):
>
> i’d also wonder about the legality of charging a $250 fine for no showing a shift. i mean, what the actual fuck?

Anywhere I’ve ever worked, pulling a no-show simply meant you would never need to worry about showing up there again.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/295 "2013-07-06T02:31:04Z")

</div>

yeah, and that’s fine. they have every right to fire someone for not showing up, but trying to profit from it is fucking nuts.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/296 "2013-07-10T20:14:07Z")

</div>

slightly ABC related: [dlisted.com](http://dlisted.com) has a daily “Caption This Photo” contest and yesterday’s winner was pretty damned funny. Link in SPOILER since it may offend some

[http://dlisted.com/2013/07/10/the-caption-this-contest-for-july-9th/](http://dlisted.com/2013/07/10/the-caption-this-contest-for-july-9th/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/297 "2013-07-10T20:40:13Z")

</div>

> [@phungi](#):
>
> slightly ABC related: [dlisted.com](http://dlisted.com) has a daily “Caption This Photo” contest and yesterday’s winner was pretty damned funny. Link in SPOILER since it may offend some
> 
> [http://dlisted.com/2013/07/10/the-caption-this-contest-for-july-9th/](http://dlisted.com/2013/07/10/the-caption-this-contest-for-july-9th/)

I liked the 2nd runner-up caption.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/298 "2014-04-06T04:26:31Z")

</div>

Bumping the old thread:

Yesterday they reran this glorious episode, but at the end they promoted next week: a two hour season premiere that features the same place! They said ‘new, unseen footage’ but I don’t think they were clear about whether it’s newly filmed footage or stuff that wasn’t used in the first episode.

Either way, I bet they have an update on what has happened since. 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/299 "2014-04-11T12:40:05Z")

</div>

Bump: Ramsey is back tonight at Amys Baking Company. Guess they were on Dr. Phil Wednesday .:rolleyes:

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JuliaSqueezer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/82dd89/32.png) [@JuliaSqueezer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JuliaSqueezer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/300 "2014-04-11T13:54:19Z")

</div>

Yes, they were on Dr. Phil and they were aggressive and obnoxious. Very unpleasant people. They seem to deserve each other, as they are both non-stop screamers and seem to harbor deep persecution complexes. Their mantra is “we will keep fighting!” and Dr. Phil tried to convince them to just shut up and stop trying to fight public opinion. I don’t think they heard a word he said.

I never saw the Kitchen Nightmares episode they were on, and seeing them on Dr. Phil was kind of an accident. I’m not about to watch anything else featuring Amy and her husband.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=14)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=16)
