# Epic facebook meltdown from Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341 "2013-05-14T19:14:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/301 "2014-04-11T14:05:31Z")
The original Kitchen Nightmares episode was aired in May 2013 but filmed in December 2012. So I’m a little amazed that the restaurant is still in business. (They have a [webpage](http://amys-baking-company.myshopify.com/collections/all), of course, on which you can buy t-shirts with charming slogans like, “Here’s Your Pizza go F\*\*K yourself!”) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/302 "2014-04-11T15:10:33Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The original Kitchen Nightmares episode was aired in May 2013 but filmed in December 2012. So I’m a little amazed that the restaurant is still in business. (They have a [webpage](http://amys-baking-company.myshopify.com/collections/all), of course, on which you can buy t-shirts with charming slogans like, “Here’s Your Pizza go F\*\*K yourself!”) I can understand. The place is right across from a movie theater I go to, and sometimes I am tempted to go in there, just to see for myself how bad it is. Never have, never will, but there must be others, curious like me, but with less will power. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/303 "2014-04-11T19:30:56Z")
Thanks for the bumps. I’ll see how long I can stomach this tonight. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/304 "2014-04-11T19:46:20Z")
It’s not the least bit surprising that these two assholes thrive on the attention. But how it god’s name has their restaurant not been firebombed yet? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/305 "2014-04-12T00:15:22Z")
Amy: “It’s like Disneyland for the crazy!” And you’re Annette, bitch! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/306 "2014-04-12T00:51:12Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > It’s not the least bit surprising that these two assholes thrive on the attention. But how it god’s name has their restaurant not been firebombed yet? People have started going exactly to wallow in the abuse? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/307 "2014-04-12T01:55:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > People have started going exactly to wallow in the abuse? Wait, somebody is running a real-life [Coffee of Doom](http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=654)? ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/308 "2014-04-12T04:03:37Z")
Those poor people! It was all because of how the show was edited! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/309 "2014-04-12T04:12:46Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Wait, somebody is running a real-life [Coffee of Doom](http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=654)? Yeah, if, instead of gorgeous hipsters and Dale, the staff consisted of crystal meth Hanners and Fredo Corleone. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/310 "2014-04-12T14:36:23Z")
Clueless… Dr. Phil told them not to engage, but apparently that is not what they can do. (Shrug) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/311 "2014-04-12T23:04:12Z")
> [@JuliaSqueezer](#): > > Yes, they were on Dr. Phil and they were aggressive and obnoxious. Very unpleasant people. They seem to deserve each other, as they are both non-stop screamers and seem to harbor deep persecution complexes. Their mantra is “we will keep fighting!” and Dr. Phil tried to convince them to just shut up and stop trying to fight public opinion. I don’t think they heard a word he said. > > I never saw the Kitchen Nightmares episode they were on, and seeing them on Dr. Phil was kind of an accident. I’m not about to watch anything else featuring Amy and her husband. I wouldn’t blame you, but the episode is an amazing train wreck. I generally don’t care for the American versions of shows done by Ramsey but this is one time I don’t think the producers did any editing to falsely create drama. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/312 "2014-04-12T23:50:57Z")
I was disappointed with the “return to Amy’s Baking Company.” Most of the hour included a recap of the first episode, a description of the media shitstorm that resulted and extra footage from that episode. The only new bit was about ten minutes at the end in which a reporter went back to that restaurant. The original episode seemed to raise two questions that I didn’t see addressed. One was the rumors about the husband’s questionable immigration status. The second was regarding the tips kept by the owners. Is that legal? ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/313 "2014-04-13T00:01:12Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I wouldn’t blame you, but the episode is an amazing train wreck. I generally don’t care for the American versions of shows done by Ramsey but this is one time I don’t think the producers did any editing to falsely create drama. We were discussing whether the producers may have edited it unfairly and The Fella made the comment: “They **may** \*\*\*\*have edited out some of the sane, but you can’t edit IN that much crazy.” I have to admit, if I were in Scottsdale, I would have an odd desire to go. Just to see for myself–order the cheapest thing on the menu and just people watch. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/314 "2014-04-13T00:19:49Z")
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that if you pay minimum wage it might be OK. But I’m of the opinion that it’s wrong for the owners to keep any tips that are left. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/315 "2014-04-13T02:02:58Z")
I must say, I thought it was pretty weak sauce that one two occasions, while showing the Internet’s reaction to the ordeal, they showed a brief clip of [Pizza Burning](http://youtu.be/ERXq3r1Kq0Q), which had absolutely nothing to do with ABC, and in fact predated that episode by a few years. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/316 "2014-04-13T04:20:51Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > I must say, I thought it was pretty weak sauce that one two occasions, while showing the Internet’s reaction to the ordeal, they showed a brief clip of [Pizza Burning](http://youtu.be/ERXq3r1Kq0Q), which had absolutely nothing to do with ABC, and in fact predated that episode by a few years. [There’s at least one ABC version.](http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1eeptg/amys_bakery_xpost_gifs/) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/317 "2014-04-13T05:08:46Z")
It is hilarious and awesome, so you’re doing yourself no favor by avoiding it. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/318 "2014-04-13T18:23:13Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [There’s at least one ABC version.](http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1eeptg/amys_bakery_xpost_gifs/) Huh. Well that’s just an AGIF of the youtube clip, but I guess I can easily see someone from the show pulling that up as a search result and including it in the examples. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/319 "2014-04-13T19:05:28Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that if you pay minimum wage it might be OK. But I’m of the opinion that it’s wrong for the owners to keep any tips that are left. It’s LEGAL but it leads to customer and server dissatisfaction. If you do it, you have to micromanage the crap out of the servers to get good service out of them… and if the customers find out, they will never tip again. Which means you might as well just ban tipping. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/320 "2014-04-13T19:08:38Z")
That;s the thing. There are plenty of no-tipping restaurants. (Fast-food places, for example, but even nicer, more expensive places.) But in those cases, there are signs, or a notice on the menu that tips are not expected or accepted. This place didn’t seem to be doing that; people were leaving tips and expecting them to go to the servers, not the owners. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=17)