# Epic facebook meltdown from Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 14, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341 "2013-05-14T19:14:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/41 "2013-05-15T04:25:44Z")

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Amy says her culinary talents are a gift from God. So, in what passes for her mind, if you criticize her cooking, you’re criticizing God.

Is someone starting a pool on when the restaurant closes?

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/42 "2013-05-15T04:42:38Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Skim the recent five star reviews on their [Yelp page](http://www.yelp.com/biz/amys-baking-company-scottsdale#hrid:c6GfpA9j5HAVJIbK6D50Vw). Some of them are hilarious.

The scariest one is probably true. It’s a prediction that as a result of all this publicity, these two lunatics will end up their own reality series. They’re failing upward.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/43 "2013-05-15T04:55:43Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Well, just keep mentioning God and I’m sure you’ll still have at least _some_ customers…
> 
> 😛

I’m guessing you live alone.

It all seemed a little staged to me.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/44 "2013-05-15T05:02:09Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Oh, and she admitted that the baked goods at Amy’s _Baking_ Company are purchased from stores and re-sold at her restaurant. That’s right, they don’t even do their own baking there. When asked why they told Ramsey that the cake he enjoyed was baked in-house, she said that he was British and he wouldn’t understand.

I had suspicions while watching but thanks for confirming (albeit without a cite). I thought Ramsay’s suggestion was to just dump the entire kitchen and keep the bakery. Ramsay missed out on a big “a-ha” moment for the show in not revealing that. I’m sure he had his suspicions too between not seeing any baking supplies, seeing the “meager” kitchen=, and not seeing her actually make the one piece of acceptable food.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/45 "2013-05-15T05:54:47Z")

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I watched the episode online after reading this thread. That was some fucked up shit. I’m surprised that a customer or employee hasn’t come by and burned the place down yet.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/46 "2013-05-15T06:31:56Z")

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It seemed from the beginning that Amy’s plan was to get Ramsay in there to say their food was really good and vindicate them.

I admit I don’t watch the shows he’s on, but I am familiar with the internet, and all the animated gifs of Ramsay make me think this was… not a wise plan. That said, this episode made him look like a saint, which (again, as far as I gather) is not typical.

That takes a special kind of crazy if my understanding is right.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/47 "2013-05-15T06:38:36Z")

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Yeah, it was pretty clear that she was jonesing hardcore for some validation from Ramsay to throw in the face of Yelpers.

I don’t even think that restaurant would have been killer to turn around. Strip every meal of half its ingredients, slash prices by 25% and for god’s sake let the servers at the POS and drinks so they can do their fricking job. Oh, and fire Amy and get someone who doesn’t take 40 minutes to unwrap a pizza and throw it in the oven.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/48 "2013-05-15T07:10:58Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> They made Gordon Ramsay seem like a sweet guy.
> 
> That server who got fired—Katie?—poor thing.

No she was lucky.

In a way I can understand her. I had a business. It didn’t make it. It is a nightmare. A nightmare in slow motion. You can watch your dream die over the course of a few years and it does put a strain on you.

Of course, how did Ramsey get into this place? Don’t they have to ask for his help?

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/49 "2013-05-15T08:45:22Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> That two-part video actually gave me physical pain. When the one customer complained about waiting over an hour for a pizza, then overheard Amy in the kitchen making fun of him, then Samy told him to pay for his drinks and get the fuck out and threatened to call the police and pushed him? Then Amy called him a pansy as they were walking away? Oh my effin God.

If I had been present in this restaurant on the evening they filmed the part appearing at the beginning of the show, I would have been fully convinced it was a candid camera thing. I would never have believed all that crap could happen in real life (three different customers thrown out in a row, IIRC).

The whole show was comedy gold. Too bad I don’t understand everything said (I’m not good at understanding spoken English).

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/50 "2013-05-15T09:10:31Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> Amy says her culinary talents are a gift from God.

One more argument for atheism.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/51 "2013-05-15T10:09:09Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> One more argument for atheism.

Imaginary talent from an imaginary deity; that sounds about right.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/52 "2013-05-15T10:23:42Z")

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The only episode that compares (I don’t typically watch) is the KN UK episode in Paris. The owner of that venture was bankrolled by ‘Daddy’. When she didn’t shape up, he pulled the money.

She’s now a very expensive hooker in Montparnasse. And is quite proud of it, apparently.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/53 "2013-05-15T10:56:13Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> No she was lucky.

She was lucky to have a job at which she was so thoroughly abused? The only lucky thing was that it ended, but apparently everyone who works there gets fired quickly (over 100 employees in a year!).

> [@](#):
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> Of course, how did Ramsey get into this place? Don’t they have to ask for his help?

Yes, you have to apply to get on the show. From the beginning, it was clear that Amy harbored under the delusion that Gordon would walk in and declare her a genius.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/54 "2013-05-15T11:23:26Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She was lucky to have a job at which she was so thoroughly abused?

I think the point was that she was lucky to get out of there.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/55 "2013-05-15T11:53:53Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> By the way, the coverage from the Phoenix New Times of the restaurant’s appearance on the show is interesting. [This article](http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2012/12/amys_baking_company_gordon_ramsay_kitchen_nightmares.php) from before the episode was filmed says that the people dining when Ramsay was there aren’t just random customers, but people who sent in emails volunteering to eat there that night.

They usually come out and say on various episodes that after the initial look-see, they stress-test the restaurant by specially inviting extra customers/former customers/etc. in, or you’ll hear something said like “word is out that Gordon is in town and so (Hapless Clueless Restaurant) is packed tonight, unlike other nights.”

And yeah, I saw this when it aired and whoa boy, there is some major crazy and denial going on there.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/56 "2013-05-15T11:59:45Z")

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I miss everything.  
We were in Phoenix a couple of months back. Since then I have seen two “Bar Rescue” episodes and this for places I know we drove past. (Didn’t go to many bars while out there; the Wife’s cousin owns a place, and so we went there most evenings.)

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/57 "2013-05-15T12:19:24Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> there’s also these [caramel apples](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150327012362900&set=a.10150327012347900.362176.176091292899&type=1&theater) that actually [are pulled from kraft’s website.](http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/easy-caramel-apples-107072.aspx) probably the tip of the iceberg.

Oh yes. I just wasted a few minutes looking at the pictures on their blog. There do seem to be a few pictures of actual food in their actual restaurant, but they are very few and far between.

[amysbakingco.com](http://amysbakingco.com/screami-scream-we-scream/) - Ice cream! OK, it actually says “Here are some pics”, rather than “Here are some pics of our ice cream”, but still.

Top picture: That ice cream is at least two years old, taken from [a recipe book](http://www.thekitchn.com/savannah-buttermint-ice-cream-150303).

Next one down: Not sure, but it’s [all over](https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZitr1rDGrrWOgpT_1EETb7H6-PIMl-cJ-qWglxsVva9mP9zKwBYCZ0M2NFXmqRpu7WtC8_1kJewtZJ575CXbVD7nYZ-8heu1GImUaNlnQ8ZzsoTz--t2uj8JWNhnrWDVqO_17IoEN6-hN5rzaBabB-vE8F2P_1a83AdRdrMkZFsmyOrN_1zHYEwuHvB7cvcLOnU3ofrLd61Sw4ekxEP1cEr8L_1PnQ85RCC69jAneezULls6l6dlVOWb7BF-G4sWIWHrmocsEd8SHB6rZAQkWGKm5lKOfNXN7veU6Yj-bUckRAsHgxv_1FPkyuCPa64_1E7V3kPaIW--xytG7XecMzP_1aem7ybcoGMDZuQpukB8dESl6y2vRDiGTai2p5sgLYs2jITRI9QQ0TaaKEnGsFLTInQzPKLnVV-C5qbAIopTiCvQoqysDgBL5uW3tvnqUeWCQxDg7iMm-f_1oa317lG1GVLbH6bsTXrYJoO6z52fKVooMjUP4TdNxf_16Vvy70Dsbj6Z-8P6gv90u-1YBQBj_1xY7NEccQ75kExZCfrF2ApcAI7UgG9i7T8VEEgaXDv4CU2Rlv1eKJDwO0RN-ZANzRi2R2TzC-5CUxGVtJHYCpUV3NtJCitEPzTVfCndtBVqiqbgXCo01kytT7QUoAKOsdwF0UMfvHPjc6IoC1PUnadigsCd_1w-mZO5HW7RlKDWf6uaxLFsb5bM1qWXzGtSpYZOlDONzuJhpzAIwlvdSmzyF5ai_1xopjsp1rwjH84cesrbPnxQ3ICfamSksJAeLfgeYZmgWqILKhselH5qxJQ0jEJJrMiCNqUrO6TDhYsIFtw1EVkJbERyVI1oJ3342-LFSVqfqG3Kfz3dBdMtdEQ_1Wd30tX5KwL6soELBglEc1fsDZSiZ_1mjQAlu4cNOEP11vBc80TqAt2haOuGEFiI_1WJZ-k3uJD6j1xFTJp-5YJ4oICpO-8SEbW6tMTymzbIhrifsRiBU00OxCg55DiFC_1wiDZCR9cg2U2VgrMUSGB3NjX-KL_1Ytd5yfu7jg9LyyDtjh6MLn-47ndLHsCJE7zaRVvOkG-m8PB_1taJKMQSt8gvTCrEGMbe-qaNVHFUIGli7YXqjnN-MT_19M2zhVtWb0vDAVboydYzGFdoAm7TlLfAUBqv8dFlwT772jQLSwfs_1RQ-nfjstpQ4ig5jp0RAB1Yqn0I-8SN4Xd6bxIkuHpuPnogha878-OXY3TU_1lUCSffIKzjVQ8ix3qAT-JOzJNj7U82dxggiPMVVeBj-OSoKPqdZif26UZzMN7US5p913IBV3REhp_1NnWUAcz7Xw&safe=off&bih=604&biw=1248) Pinterest and has been online since at least 2010 - as indeed are most of the images Amy seems to find.

Next: [another recipe page](http://bestfriendsforfrosting.com/2012/06/key-lime-pie-ice-cream-recipe/) (and that may not even be the original source)

And on this page: [amysbakingco.com](http://amysbakingco.com/parties-at-abc/)

Hmm, that top image doesn’t quite look like the next two which were taken in the restaurant. That’s because it was done by [Martha Stewart 12 years ago](http://www.marthastewart.com/269285/all-white-shower). Hope those veggies are still crisp!

The cupcakes? Well the ones in the pink box were obviously bought in (and an ABC sticker applied to the box?), but the Indian-style ones below? Nicked from [here](http://www.trenddelacreme.com/2008/11/ive-died-and-gone-to-icing-heaven.html).

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/58 "2013-05-15T12:30:40Z")

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This isn’t the first meldown they have had. [Check out this local news report.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nexQhKIx39Q&feature=player_embedded)

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Was there a link to Ramsay finding out that the dessert he liked was bought?

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/60 "2013-05-15T13:48:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Ranger Jeff]

Amy says her culinary talents are a gift from God.

> [@panache45](#):
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> One more argument for atheism.

[/quote]

Well, I don’t recall her specifying any particular deity. Maybe she was referring to Loki?

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