# Epic facebook meltdown from Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341 "2013-05-14T19:14:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/61 "2013-05-15T13:49:11Z")
“Samy Bouzaglo”? Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/62 "2013-05-15T13:51:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > “Samy Bouzaglo”? > > Sigh. Eh? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/63 "2013-05-15T13:52:54Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Was there a link to Ramsay finding out that the dessert he liked was bought? I haven’t found anything, but it was pretty clear to me that he knew going in. The show’s producers had likely scouted out the kitchen, and at the end Ramsay says “a restaurant with a kitchen that small shouldn’t have 65 menu items.” If they didn’t outright know, I’m sure they strongly suspected that a lot of the food was bought pre-made. He also asked several times if Amy made the baked goods and if they were made on site, which I interpreted as a setup for a later gotcha (which never came thanks to the meltdown). ---
**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/64 "2013-05-15T14:04:48Z")
It is 10am my time. I am now all but bouncing in my cubicle at work, jonesing for 4pm when I can go home and watch the ep on On Demand. If it isn’t in there, I may kill myself. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/65 "2013-05-15T14:10:45Z")
> [@Scubaqueen](#): > > If it isn’t in there, I may kill myself. 😃 If you do, don’t worry. Amy and her God will resurrect you. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/66 "2013-05-15T14:19:08Z")
Omigosh - this is now on the AM news shows. BURN! And every talking head keeps saying “Amy is crazy” ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/67 "2013-05-15T14:30:40Z")
> [@Scubaqueen](#): > > It is 10am my time. I am now all but bouncing in my cubicle at work, jonesing for 4pm when I can go home and watch the ep on On Demand. > > If it isn’t in there, I may kill myself. 😃 It’s on YouTube; I got to it from Reddit. It was, well, wow. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/68 "2013-05-15T15:13:23Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I haven’t found anything, but it was pretty clear to me that he knew going in. The show’s producers had likely scouted out the kitchen, and at the end Ramsay says “a restaurant with a kitchen that small shouldn’t have 65 menu items.” If they didn’t outright know, I’m sure they strongly suspected that a lot of the food was bought pre-made. He also asked several times if Amy made the baked goods and if they were made on site, which I interpreted as a setup for a later gotcha (which never came thanks to the meltdown). There is nothing essentially wrong with using suppliers for baked goods and desserts, actually most places do. [I worked at US Foodservice back in 98/99 and [Sweet Street](https://www.sweetstreet.com/) was _amazingly popular_ with most of the restaurants in Connecticut and RI.] And given that you can use a supplier for good quality appetizers, entree components, sides and desserts there is no reason you can’t have a menu with 65 items. The dirty dark secret is that most places use premade components. \ If the components are handled properly from manufacturer to the table, there is no problem. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/69 "2013-05-15T15:18:43Z")
I think the big problem with using outside-produced desserts is that the name of the restaurant is Amy’s Baking Company, and they promote their business as a “bakery, boutique, and bistro.” So I would absolutely expect them to bake their baked goods and desserts on site or themselves but at a dedicated offsite bakery. When you put yourselves out as a bakery, outrage at learning you don’t actually make the desserts/baked goods should be expected. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/70 "2013-05-15T15:25:10Z")
Also, she flat out lied about it on national TV. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/71 "2013-05-15T15:30:57Z")
I just stumbled on a story on Yahoo about a restaurant that gets bad reviews, so went on TV. Perhaps I’m posting to the wrong forum (BBQ Pit?) but to me it seems amusing… [The Restaurant from Hell](http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/kitchen-nightmare-comes-true-for-arizona-restaurant-owners-182329445.html). The link lets you click to a 20-minute episode of “Kitchen Nightmares;” I’m watching it now – spellbound! (Kitchen Nightmares Season _6_. :eek: Maybe this is all old-hat in U.S.A.) … Is the whole thing some joke or parody? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/72 "2013-05-15T15:32:06Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > I’m guessing you live alone. Sorry? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/73 "2013-05-15T15:37:23Z")
Merging two topics about the same thing (pretty much). ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/74 "2013-05-15T15:39:34Z")
Isn’t it pretty obvious that she doesn’t bake the stuff herself when he goes there the next day and there is no one even there? Every bakery I have ever heard of they are up super early baking their wares. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/75 "2013-05-15T15:41:43Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I think the big problem with using outside-produced desserts is that the name of the restaurant is Amy’s Baking Company, and they promote their business as a “bakery, boutique, and bistro.” So I would absolutely expect them to bake their baked goods and desserts on site or themselves but at a dedicated offsite bakery. When you put yourselves out as a bakery, outrage at learning you don’t actually make the desserts/baked goods should be expected. Yes, when you include two formulations of the word “bake” in your restaurant’s name, I think one could reasonably expect you to, you know, **bake**. Coincidentally, Ramsey himself got in trouble a while back for having food in his restaurants made elsewhere and brought in, but at least it was his staff making the food (IIRC it was made the same day, vacuum packed and reheated). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/76 "2013-05-15T15:43:49Z")
That’s why I allowed for the possibility that they might have a full-on bakery kitchen elsewhere, maybe due to space limitations in that kitchen and how baking might interfere with other prep work. But yeah, it became obvious quick that something was up, and I’m sure that if the episode had played out like a normal one, Ramsay would have been lobbing the usual criticisms like “WTF, you call yourself a bakery but don’t bake anything yourself?!” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/77 "2013-05-15T15:46:28Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Eh? In Israel, “Sammy Buzaglo” is one of those names that are practically a cliche - hell, it’s even the name of a well-known[legal principle](http://forward.com/articles/8127/the-buzaglo-test/). If a writer gave it to one of his characters I’d accuse him of being racist. I just don’t like people living up to stereotypes, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/78 "2013-05-15T15:48:04Z")
> [@Sally\_Mander](#): > > Did Samy ever give a reason why the waitresses, or rather, food runners couldn’t use the POS system? Was it distrust or what? They both admitted to being control freaks. I assume that was the factor. > [@aruvqan](#): > > There is nothing essentially wrong with using suppliers for baked goods and desserts, actually most places do. There is something essentially wrong with outright claiming you made something you didn’t. And even if it hadn’t been explicit, the word “bakery” in the name has certain implications. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/79 "2013-05-15T15:50:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > In Israel, “Sammy Buzaglo” is one of those names that are practically a cliche - hell, it’s even the name of a well-known[legal principle](http://forward.com/articles/8127/the-buzaglo-test/). If a writer gave it to one of his characters I’d accuse him of being racist. > > I just don’t like people living up to stereotypes, that’s all. What’s the stereotype he confirmed? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341/80 "2013-05-15T16:04:10Z")
I stopped watching Ramsey’s show because they all became pretty predictable, at least the American version. In the British version he seemingly dealt with a wider variety of issues and the show seemed a little more organic. In the U.S. it always seems to be the same litany of clueless/hostile owners, awful food and appalling sanitary conditions, often with a heaping portion of family dysfunction tossed in to the mix. Might have to watch this one, though. It sounds like an unusually epic take on the same old same old. > [@clairobscur](#): > > Too bad I don’t understand everything said (I’m not good at understanding spoken English). Now that really surprises me, your written English is excellent. I would have assumed you are one of those perfectly bilingual people. Not that I have anything to boast about, after three years of HS French all it netted me is that French films sound vaguely familiar in an unintelligible sort of way :). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epic-facebook-meltdown-from-gordon-ramseys-kitchen-nightmares/658341.md?page=5)