# Episode II- Title Named (Spoiler, i guess) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 6, 2001, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151 "2001-08-06T18:35:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Heath\_Doolin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Heath\_Doolin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heath_Doolin)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/21 "2001-08-06T21:57:55Z")
Jebus it might as well be Star Wars: Lucas takes a shit on the camera and you spend 9 bucks for it They guy is over the loop I hope to god the 3rd one (sans his royal beardness) manages to be as dark as they say it will be. I mean I want my Darth Vader to be the Darth that crushes windpipes with the Force for coughing when he speaks or cutting a fart in his presence. I like my Vader bad dammit! Oh and Jack Lloyd can kiss my ass. Sawed off little pumpkin headed yuppie larvae is probably never gonna show his face on screen again thanks to his whinyism of Anakin. You believe Lucas passed up Osment for the little pisser? Whats next for a title Star Wars:Jar Jar eats shit (actually I would pay to see that) ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/22 "2001-08-06T22:02:51Z")
_Star Wars Episode II: Jar Jar Dies in the First Five Minutes, We Swear_ ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/23 "2001-08-06T22:09:43Z")
Please God let this not be real…PLEASE… **PLEASE!!!** ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/24 "2001-08-06T22:47:41Z")
Holy shit it is Star wars ii “attack of the clones”. I thought my leg was being pulled. I read it on the official website ([http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html](http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html)). ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/25 "2001-08-06T22:48:46Z")
brackets messed things up, sorry about that. [http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html](http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html) ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/26 "2001-08-06T22:50:45Z")
and yes…I did totally miss the link in the OP. :o ---
**Author:** ![Undead\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Undead\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Undead_Dude)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/27 "2001-08-06T23:17:58Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by LNO \* When Return of the Jedi was being produced, Lucas leaked the original title as _Revenge of the Jedi_. Immediately prior to release, he changed the title to _Return of the Jedi_ so as to easily identify all non-sanctioned toys and miscellany. (The company line is that ‘Oh, a Jedi would never take revenge.’) [QUOTE] _Return of the Jedi_ got its name change quite some time before release. And the original name _Revenge of the Jedi_ was not simply “leaked”. They made a trailer with that name and everything. What’s the basis of concluding that it was a ploy? ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/28 "2001-08-06T23:30:57Z")
**Star Wars: The Search for More Money** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/29 "2001-08-06T23:31:19Z")
“Attack of the Clones”? “Attack of the fucking CLONES?!?!?” ::breaks down crying:: Why? Why?!? _ **WHY?!?!?** _ ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/30 "2001-08-06T23:33:37Z")
Dear God, no!!! I was seven when the first movie came out and it totally hooked me on science fiction. Since then, I lived waiting for the sequels and have enjoyed every one. (Okay, I admit, I hated the damn Ewoks and I was let down by _The Phantom Menace_ but, it was still better than Burtons POTA!) This, however, is going too far! If Lucas’ is serious about calling the movie this, it had better be damn good! If it doesn’t start out with Ewoks roasting on an open fire, I’m gonna be **pissed**!!! ---
**Author:** ![Yersinia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@Yersinia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersinia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/31 "2001-08-06T23:47:05Z")
Wasn’t there a secret evil military base left over from the Clone Wars in one of the Timothy Zahn novels? ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/32 "2001-08-07T00:01:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Undead Dude \* > \*\*_Return of the Jedi_ got its name change quite some time before release. And the original name _Revenge of the Jedi_ was not simply “leaked”. They made a trailer with that name and everything. > > What’s the basis of concluding that it was a ploy? \*\* [imdb.com’s entry](http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0086190). > [@](#): > > The title “Revenge of the Jedi” was leaked early in production, so that pirated merchandise could be easily spotted when the film was released. The official reason for the change was that “…a Jedi would not take revenge”. Some authentic pre-release movie posters actually had “Revenge”, and are worth a lot of money today. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/33 "2001-08-07T00:03:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Yersinia Pestis \* > \*\*Wasn’t there a secret evil military base left over from the Clone Wars in one of the Timothy Zahn novels? \*\* The Emperor’s secret headquarters and storehouse in Mount Tantriss, in the first Zahn trilogy. All of the artifacts and curiousities that Palpatine had collected in his conquests were stored there, including an entire cloning facility (and the hand that Vader sliced off of Luke in TESB). Of course, Tantriss was nothing compared to Byss…but that’s another novel… jayjay (closet Star Wars freak) ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/34 "2001-08-07T00:07:25Z")
I was just talking about this with a co-worker, and he said “It’s like Lucas refuses to let sci-fi grow up.” Well put. ---
**Author:** ![Rosebud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rosebud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosebud)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/35 "2001-08-07T01:09:01Z")
Hey, **LNO** , thanks! I couldn’t remember where I saw the Heffalump thing (obviously), gonna check that link out. So far, **MEBuckner’s** suggestion is my favorite for Episode II. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/36 "2001-08-07T01:20:29Z")
1. _Star Wars: The Clones Attack_ 2. _Star Wars: Clone Attack_ 3. _Star Wars: Battle of the Clones_ … …or maybe it just sucks. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/37 "2001-08-07T01:25:25Z")
My dad liked the first three movies a LOT. I think I’m almost glad he didn’t live to see this day. Oh my dear God. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/38 "2001-08-07T02:19:41Z")
As long as the clones are attacking Jar-Jar Binks, repeatedly and violently, I don’t have a problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/39 "2001-08-07T02:35:17Z")
Tonight on FOX: _When Clones Attack!_ ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151/40 "2001-08-07T03:28:13Z")
> [@](#): > > The Emperor’s secret headquarters and storehouse in Mount Tantriss, in the first Zahn trilogy. Tantiss, not Tantriss. On the planet Wayland. It also had a holographic rendering of the galaxy, accurately showing all the hundreds of billions of stars. > [@](#): > > …or maybe it just sucks. It’s the simple fact that the title sounds like that of a cheap B-Movie (or a _Star Trek_ episode). The dual usage that would result from calling it “The Clone Wars” is a tad obnoxious from an objective point of view, but people have been expecting it for twenty fucking years. Or perhaps something suitably vague, like Episode I had? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episode-ii-title-named-spoiler-i-guess/75151.md?page=3)