# Episodes of shows you love that everyone else hates...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 6, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632 "2013-12-06T02:33:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/21 "2013-12-11T03:12:07Z")

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Some people consider “Midnight” among the WORST of NuWho?! That episode blew my mind!

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/22 "2013-12-11T13:45:46Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Speaking of Buffy, I thought “Where the Wild Things Are,” got a lot of undeserved hate. I thought it was a decent haunted house episode.

Not one of my favorite episodes, but, yeah, not that bad. Buffy and Riley, under the spell of the haunted house, boning it up all day long. A lot of people hate it because they hate Riley, another thing I never got.

(My big gripe with the episode is a totally gratuitous shot of one of them reaching into a drawer and grabbing a condom package from a large pile of such. Obviously, a heavy-handed safe sex message. They could have totally redeemed it by showing the now-empty drawer at the end of the episode.)

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**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/23 "2013-12-11T17:14:22Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> I’ll go one worse. I actually like “Beer Bad.” Beat _that_. I don’t love it, so maybe it’s a bit of a cheat off the OP, but I like it, and quite a bit. I cannot explain myself, and I’m properly hush about it in mixed company. 😉

I also liked “Beer Bad”, I certainly didn’t think it was the [worst episode of them all.](http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/ranking-every-episode-of-buffy-the-vampire-slayer)

This might not count for everyone, but I do seem to be in the minority on this one: I loved the series finale of _Lost_.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/24 "2013-12-11T20:07:21Z")

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/25 "2013-12-12T02:58:12Z")

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> [@Mauvaise](#):
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> I also liked “Beer Bad”, I certainly didn’t think it was the [worst episode of them all.](http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/ranking-every-episode-of-buffy-the-vampire-slayer)
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> This might not count for everyone, but I do seem to be in the minority on this one: I loved the series finale of _Lost_.

“Him” is the worst episode of Buffy. Fortunately it was followed by “Conversations with Dead People,” one of the best episodes.

ETA; “Beer Bad” is far from my favorite, but it isn’t that bad. When Cave-Buffy clubs the douchebag, that was funny.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/26 "2013-12-12T03:36:14Z")

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This isn’t an episode, but on SNL I enjoy the ‘whats up with that’ skits despite critics saying they are getting old. I still enjoy them.

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**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/27 "2013-12-12T04:44:25Z")

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Another vote for Tuvix…

It was a good fictional moral dilemma.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/28 "2013-12-12T04:49:39Z")

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TOS The Way To Eden

I liked the space hippies, Spock jamming, “we reach, Herbert,” etc… Showed a side of things out of the norm.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/29 "2013-12-12T05:02:49Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> I love all the Ferengi episodes in DS9. Armin Shimerman and Max Grodénchik are comedy geniuses in those roles

Heh, that’s what I came in to mention. The last one or two were kinda weak, but I really had fun with most of the Ferengi episodes.

I liked season six of Buffy, which seems to get a lot of hate. I thought it was as good as any of the earlier seasons. (Season seven was legitimately terrible though, it was pretty clear both the writing staff and cast had checked out at that point).

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/30 "2013-12-12T05:48:45Z")

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Star Trek TNG-“The Royale”. True absurdism but it worked for me.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/31 "2013-12-12T06:57:39Z")

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“Exposé” was the first one I thought of when reading the title. It’s one of the best episodes of the entire run of Lost, and completely justifies the existence of Nikki and Paulo. No sarcasm.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/32 "2013-12-12T13:40:07Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I liked season six of Buffy, which seems to get a lot of hate. I thought it was as good as any of the earlier seasons. (Season seven was legitimately terrible though, it was pretty clear both the writing staff and cast had checked out at that point).

I didn’t really start watching the serious until around 2008 on DVD. I liked the puppet episode. I thought the series peaked with season 5, I strongly disliked season 6 and while season 7 was a slight improvement I think they did an excellent job with the series end.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/33 "2013-12-12T14:12:44Z")

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Season 7 was a thousand times better on DVD than on TV. The pacing was all wrong with a week between each episode - it felt like nothing was happening but standing around speechifying and Buffy moping. On DVD, it all happens so fast it’s dizzying and you can hardly catch your breath. I still can’t quite figure that out.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/34 "2013-12-12T14:25:07Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Edit: In Doctor Who, while I can’t really say I adore it, I think I like the episode Love and Monsters a lot more than most people. I really liked the way it showed a silly conspiracy organization becoming more about companionship than conspiracy.

I agree with “Love and Monsters.” Excellent episode and I dont understand why it’s disliked so much.

I’ll add “Paradise Towers,” which I find brilliant on all levels. The societies in the tower are all a hoot (I loved the Rezzies), and it’s fun to see [Grimm’s Law](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimm's_law) in effect (and without explanation). And Richard Briers!

“The Power of Kroll” is also pretty good. It does have the worst special effects in the series (and that says a log), but the story is solid.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/35 "2013-12-12T14:39:51Z")

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Per [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633925) (“Worst Futurama episode”), apparently there’s a lot of hate for “A Pharaoh to Remember” and “The Honking”. I don’t love “The Honking” but I don’t dislike it either. I do really like “Pharaoh” and I’m not sure I understand the objections to it. Someone mentioned it “just has Bender being a total dick for no reason,” which doesn’t make any sense; how is that different from Bender normally?

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**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/36 "2013-12-12T15:26:59Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> “Him” is the worst episode of Buffy. Fortunately it was followed by “Conversations with Dead People,” one of the best episodes.

I consider “Anne” the worse episode of Buffy. I can’t begin to explain my hate for that episode, but it’s the worst!

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> ETA; “Beer Bad” is far from my favorite, but it isn’t that bad. When Cave-Buffy clubs the douchebag, that was funny.

“Foamy!”

> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I liked season six of Buffy, which seems to get a lot of hate.

I loved season six of Buffy. It’s in my top two favourite seasons, maybe even my over-all fave.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/37 "2013-12-12T20:51:14Z")

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I generally liked “Doublemeat Palace.” I wouldn’t call it a favorite episode, but I was impressed with how Joss Whedon and friends weren’t going to gloss over the fact that even superheroes gotta pay the bills, and they can’t always pick the most glamorous ways to get that done.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/38 "2013-12-12T21:13:00Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Inspired by a dig on an episode I happen to love in another thread…
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> These are episodes you love, not like or think are okay that general Fandom mostly agrees are terrible.
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> “Tuvix” from Voyager. I love this episode. It is one of my favorite episodes of Voyager. I am willing to overlook ludicrous science if the episode is interesting or fun.

I like “Tuvix” too, and I don’t think it’s all that unpopular. People are displeased by Janeways murderous actions in the episode, but that’s not quite the same thing as saying the episode is bad the way that, fex, “Threshold” is.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/39 "2013-12-13T02:54:12Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> TOS The Way To Eden
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> I liked the space hippies, Spock jamming, “we reach, Herbert,” etc… Showed a side of things out of the norm.

What kind of Herbert doesn’t like “The Way to Eden?” It is one of the best episodes of TV out there, even better than the punk rock episode of Quincy.

> [@Mauvaise](#):
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> I consider “Anne” the worse episode of Buffy. I can’t begin to explain my hate for that episode, but it’s the worst!

It had a good line in it though.

“Hey Anne, want to see my Gandhi impression?” _Smashes demon’s head in_.  
“Gandhi?”  
“Well, if he was really pissed off.”

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/episodes-of-shows-you-love-that-everyone-else-hates/675632/40 "2013-12-13T13:15:15Z")

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“The Principal and the Pauper” is a damn funny Simpsons episode. I don’t know what people have against it. Something to do with continuity, maybe? As if “continuity” is a word that can be applied to the Simpsons with a straight face.

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