# Eployment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443 "2015-09-24T23:56:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/21 "2015-09-25T16:15:18Z")

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Be honest, you only have one reputation.

Good luck on your future empupment.

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**Author:** ![puppup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@puppup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puppup)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/22 "2015-09-25T16:50:18Z")

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Thank you GOTHIC

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/23 "2015-09-25T18:49:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It would be very unusual for an employer to confirm your educational claims, at least for secondary education.

> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> If you say you have a high school education, nobody will question it or ask for proof. Well, maybe not “nobody” but 99% of employers will take you at your word on that. There may be other reasons they won’t hire you, but they won’t waste their time checking your HS records if you interview well for the job.

Not so anymore, especially for any job that entails (or may entail) access to the personal or financial information of others. Section 19 of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (among others) has been a prime example of the law of unintended consequences. It would be laughable if the consequences for employers were not so high - $1,000,000 per day for non-compliance. This has many employers going overboard to check every aspect of a prospective employee’s background. My own employment - 8 years ago - was delayed for 2 weeks while the school district employee who verified graduation was on vacation. People who graduated from foreign high schools has been delayed months while their HS graduation info was verified.

That said, I doubt this applies to the OP. Drug testing, since it costs the employer real money, is usually the last thing required before hiring. No sense in paying for a drug test before all other questions are answered.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/24 "2015-09-25T18:53:46Z")

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> [@puppup](#):
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> Do Employers check to see if you have a high school deploma or ged all the time ?

Even a PhD is no guarantee – I am mostly unpaid intern on my sixth year with PhD.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/25 "2015-09-25T18:58:37Z")

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ETA  
While [Section 19](https://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/5000-1300.html) specifically covers:

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> Section 19 of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (12 U.S.C. 1829) prohibits, without the prior written consent of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), a person convicted of any criminal offense involving dishonesty or breach of trust or money laundering (covered offenses), or who has agreed to enter into a pretrial diversion or similar program in connection with a prosecution for such offense, from becoming or continuing as an institution-affiliated party, owning or controlling, directly or indirectly an insured depository institution (insured institution), or otherwise participating, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of the affairs of the insured institution. In addition, the law forbids an insured institution from permitting such a person to engage in any conduct or to continue any relationship prohibited by section 19. It imposes a ten-year ban against the FDIC’s consent for persons convicted of certain crimes enumerated in Title 18 of the United States Code, absent a motion by the FDIC and court approval.  
> Section 19 imposes a duty upon the insured institution to make a reasonable inquiry regarding an applicant’s history, which consists of taking steps appropriate under the circumstances, consistent with applicable law, to avoid hiring or permitting participation in its affairs by a person who has a conviction or program entry for a covered offense. The FDIC believes that at a minimum, each insured institution should establish a screening process that provides the insured institution with information concerning any convictions or program entry pertaining to a job applicant. This would include, for example, the completion of a written employment application that requires a listing of all convictions and program entries. The FDIC will look to the circumstances of each sole situation to determine whether the inquiry is reasonable. Upon notice of a conviction or program entry, an application seeking the FDIC’s consent prior to the person’s participation must be filed.

The whole “make a reasonable inquiry regarding an applicant’s history, which consists of taking steps appropriate under the circumstances” part makes employers nervous enough to check everything on the application/resume.

I don’t work for a financial institution, but we do outsourced work for some. That is enough to bring us under the purview of the law. We lost some good employees because of it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/26 "2015-09-25T19:06:51Z")

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> [@puppup](#):
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> Thank you it was a bad mistake not to finish but i really need this job now and will get my GED ASAP

Just be aware that if your boss finds out that you lied on your application you will almost certainly be fired.

So don’t call in two months from now and tell your manager that you have to miss a day to sit for the GED exam.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/27 "2015-09-25T20:08:52Z")

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I don’t get the obsession in the USA with forcing drug tests but that’s another thread, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eployment/732443/28 "2015-09-26T02:21:38Z")

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> [@puppup](#):
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> Dear MUDSHARK A background ck is mainly criminal and driving cks is this correct in your opininon? I just took drug test and they paid Do you think im ok ? Hate this situation but must have job. Thanks PUPPUP 🙂

Probably criminal, driving, and to make sure you really lived where you said you did. If they paid for the drug test, its usually a good sign.

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