# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/181 "2025-11-14T18:27:20Z")
**Moderating:** This is really off-topic, I’ll hide your post and everyone drop the Russia/NATO sidebar. > **How to Reply as a linked Topic** > > Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. > > Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. > > That is actually the best method. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/182 "2025-11-14T18:36:46Z")
Trump announced today via social media that he’s ordering AG Bondi to open an investigation into a number of Democrats’ relationship to Jeffrey Epstein. By doing this, does it make sure the files stay sealed as a way to “preserve evidence?” ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/183 "2025-11-14T18:44:17Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I dunno. This feels like the Mueller Report all over again … we’re waiting breathlessly for the smoking gun, and it turns out to be a popgun with a little flag that says “BANG!”. It amazes me how much benefit of the doubt Trump gets sometimes. So there is Trump, notorious pervert, adjudicated rapist and self-declared sexual assaulter (“grab em by the..”), he’s hanging around with the world’s most (or perhaps now second-most) notorious sex trafficker/pedophile for years (recent email releases show they were still in contact in 2017) and people think Trump behaved like a gentleman this whole time? We have child prostitutes all around a creep who we know will go backstage at a pageant of teenagers so he can see their little boobies and we are going to assume that he never sampled Epstein’s merchandise? And now we’ve got Trump doing every single thing possible to make himself look even guiltier including moving his co-conspirator to a cushy jail that doesn’t normally accommodate chomos. Somehow in the midst of all of this there is a possibility that Trump didn’t do anything inappropriate? Trump, the “dog that hasn’t barked” _per Epstein himself_? Yes, there was one witness (the one who killed herself) who said that he was a gentleman to her. I guess that proves that he doesn’t rape every young woman he encounters and that certainly corresponds to Trump’s own words about how when he is choosing a sexual assault victim, he has a certain “type”. But at the end of the day, we don’t need the circumstantial evidence. We need those files released. Let them tell the story. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/184 "2025-11-14T19:55:50Z")
Trump has ordered an investigation into Epstein’s links with Clinton, plus some banks and others with links to Democrats. Apart from the classic deflection tactic and the disgraceful weaponisation of the Justice Department this just looks like a way to stop the release of all the files, as Trump will claim that the release will undermine an ongoing investigation. If the files truly implicate Trump he will stop at nothing to prevent their release. When and if this latest tactic doesn’t work, he will be forced to escalate and he will become increasingly desperate. This could get very dangerous, and somebody will need to stop him. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/185 "2025-11-14T20:27:43Z")
The “If I’m going down I’m taking you bastards with me” approach to governing. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/186 "2025-11-14T20:42:03Z")
Actually, I wouldn’t object to that if any one in either party ends up going down with Trump. If they’re connected to Epstein’s underage prostitution ring, they deserve massive prison sentences. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/187 "2025-11-14T21:12:35Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > By doing this, does it make sure the files stay sealed as a way to “preserve evidence?” > [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Apart from the classic deflection tactic and the disgraceful weaponisation of the Justice Department this just looks like a way to stop the release of all the files, as Trump will claim that the release will undermine an ongoing investigation. Yeah, this is what they are saying right now on CNN. Surely someone smarter than him came up with this plan no doubt. He’s in Full Flail Mode now. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/188 "2025-11-14T21:14:29Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Apart from the classic deflection tactic and the disgraceful weaponisation of the Justice Department this just looks like a way to stop the release of all the files, as Trump will claim that the release will undermine an ongoing investigation. That was my first thought as well, the sneaky bastard. On the other hand, doesn’t dragging this out longer and longer just increase the drumbeat of “Release the Files!!”. At this point, this one isn’t just gonna go away like the Mueller Report, or “grab ‘em by the” or mocking the disabled reporter did. Wouldn’t even he want to rip the bandaid off, sooner rather than later? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/189 "2025-11-14T21:16:51Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > Wouldn’t even he want to rip the bandaid off, sooner rather than later? You haven’t seen the festering wound under that bandaid… ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/190 "2025-11-14T21:33:52Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > this one isn’t just gonna go away I truly pray to all the pretend gods that this is true. Trump Is _freaking out_ about what’s happening. Let’s keep it going!! I mean, per one email, Epstein implied that he was with Trump over Thanksgiving 2017, when Trump _was president_. That’s fucking huge. And there’s more. > [@](#): > > **That wasn’t the only message that suggested Trump and Epstein were still spending time together. In another email chain from December 2017, a guest of Epstein’s [claimed](https://newrepublic.com/post/203106/donald-trump-still-hanging-out-epstein-president) they didn’t want to risk running into Trump at Epstein’s Paris apartment. In other emails sent just days after the presidential election, Epstein [claimed](https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1988754363830137060) he was headed for New York as “Trump gives many new things to do,” and [later said](https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1988754363830137060?s=20) he was visiting Trump Tower.** > **[Did Trump Spend Thanksgiving With Epstein After He Was Elected?](https://newrepublic.com/post/203129/donald-trump-epstein-president-thanksgiving-2017)** > > In a newly released email, Jeffrey Epstein said “Trump” was with him on Thanksgiving 2017. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/191 "2025-11-14T21:59:07Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > At this point, this one isn’t just gonna go away like the Mueller Report, or “grab ‘em by the” or mocking the disabled reporter did. Wouldn’t even he want to rip the bandaid off, sooner rather than later? So far for his _entire life_ he’s been able to avoid facing consequences for his crimes, despite being under investigation for one thing or another for basically all of it. He’s not going to think in terms of “better to face the consequences now than later”, because his life has thought him that he can _always_ evade the consequences. I don’t think it would even occur to him at this point to “rip off the bandage” instead of trying to make the whole affair just go away. He’s never had to think like that. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/192 "2025-11-14T22:04:24Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Trump Is _freaking out_ about what’s happening. Let’s keep it going!! And for the first time in what seems like ages, they are talking about the Georgia Election Interference case again! The consensus is nothing is going to happen while he’s in office, but Damn! It’s nice to stir the coals on this again! 😁 Keep shoveling the shit on the pile! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/193 "2025-11-14T22:26:11Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I mean, per one email, Epstein implied that he was with Trump over Thanksgiving 2017, when Trump _was president_. That’s fucking huge. And still, if you go to the Fox News website, good luck finding news about Epstein. Need to know about breaking news on “newlyweds’ roadside death” and they’ve got you covered (#1 story). If a tree named Epstein falls in the right wing media news forest, does it make a sound? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/194 "2025-11-14T22:59:06Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > However, we now can say, by the preponderance of the evidence, Trump spent hours alone with a young prostitute. The quality of the evidence here (email from Epstein sent years later) is not anywhere near as high as the evidence that DJT walked into the Miss Teen USA dressing room, but the severity of the crime for which there is new evidence is a lot worse. > > I think this slightly lessens Trump’s power – especially if soon accompanied by slightly lower polling numbers, as likely. There’s no way to measure such a loss of power. But I cannot believe GOP SCOTUS judges will fail to be unconsciously affected. At the very least, all this offers an **excuse** for the big-money men to decide Donald must go (because of his malign effect on the economy). ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/195 "2025-11-14T23:20:25Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Trump has ordered an investigation into Epstein’s links with Clinton, plus some banks and others with links to Democrats. Apart from the classic deflection tactic and the disgraceful weaponisation of the Justice Department this just looks like a way to stop the release of all the files, as Trump will claim that the release will undermine an ongoing investigation. > > If the files truly implicate Trump he will stop at nothing to prevent their release. When and if this latest tactic doesn’t work, he will be forced to escalate and he will become increasingly desperate. This could get very dangerous, and somebody will need to stop him. Not this’ll make a bit of difference in the MAGAsphere, but doesn’t this undercut his claims that he hasn’t ordered investigations of anyone? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/196 "2025-11-14T23:20:30Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > [And still, if you go to the Fox News website, good luck finding news about Epstein. One way to find it is to check out @realDonaldTrump at Truth Social. At the top of his feed, he pinned a FoxNews talking head saying that Trump is being framed for Epstein involvement. Trump continues to act on the idea that there’s no such thing as bad publicity. ’ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/197 "2025-11-15T01:06:17Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > At the very least, all this offers an **excuse** for the big-money men to decide Donald must go Which would mean- what? No funding for his mythical third term? No, there is no way trump is gonna be removed from office. Maybe he might get so sick over this he will resign, maybe, but not likely. But this is killing the GOP in 2026- if the voters remember. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/198 "2025-11-15T01:51:07Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > So there’s an email in the recently released batch of Epstein emails where Mark Epstein asks his brother Jeffrey if Putin “has the photos of Trump blowing bubba.” > > “Bubba” being the nickname of our 42nd president, Bill Clinton Imagine if Clinton’s penis takes down two Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/199 "2025-11-15T01:54:08Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > The post-2016 party is just Trump so, yes, obviously that’s true. > > But we we’re talking about the people in the Senate. The people in the Senate have been supporting Trump since 2016. That’s all I need to know about them. I don’t expect them to change one iota. They’ll continue to support Trump all the way to his bunker moment. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/200 "2025-11-15T02:08:27Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > One way to find it is to check out @realDonaldTrumprealDonaldTrump at Truth Social. Or, if you don’t want Trump profiting off of the ad views that going to his site would generate, you can check [trumpstruth.org](http://trumpstruth.org), which mirrors all of his posts (but not the retweets). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=11)