# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/201 "2025-11-15T02:18:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I don’t think it would even occur to him at this point to “rip off the bandage” instead of trying to make the whole affair just go away. He’s never had to think like that. I believe he’s thinking like “If I demand Bondi do an investigation of my enemies, then the files cannot be released, since there is an ongoing DOJ investigation.” ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/202 "2025-11-15T02:21:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe he’s thinking like “If I demand Bondi do an investigation of my enemies, then the files cannot be released, since there is an ongoing DOJ investigation.” That’s the theory I’ve seen advanced on social media. Echoes of “I can’t release my tax returns, I’m under audit”. One could see this fairly unceremoniously getting challenged in a lawsuit and bounced up to SCOTUS who will say “sure, he can do that. In fact that’s such a good idea, maybe we’ll investigate ourselves.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/203 "2025-11-15T02:25:57Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Echoes of “I can’t release my tax returns, I’m under audit”. Whoa-- that’s a golden oldie! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/204 "2025-11-15T02:27:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But this is killing the GOP in 2026- if the voters remember. Come on. It’s 2025. There’s under a year until the 2026 elections. Oh, wait… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/205 "2025-11-15T02:34:27Z")
[White House Says Virginia Giuffre Is the Unnamed ‘Victim’ in Epstein Emails About Trump](https://www.aol.com/articles/white-house-says-virginia-giuffre-174223384.html) > [@](#): > > In an email dated April 2, 2011, Epstein appears to have written to Maxwell: “i want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump. [VICTIM] spent hours at my house with him Is this a test of the hypothesis that a dead girl (or live boy) would bring Trump down? It won’t. Trump may have been a factor in the depression that led her to take her life, but there would have to be a video of Trump actually murdering for this is be Donald’s downfall, and that simply does not exist. It is a mistake to think that Trump’s resistance to release of files is because he thinks there is something in there that will bring him down. And it’s also a mistake to think he is dragging out the file release in order to draw attention away from something else, like inflation. Actually, he is also trying to give inflation more attention, with ridiculous posts claiming that prices are declining. It is attention-getting turtles all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/206 "2025-11-15T02:41:14Z")
It’s a measure of how bitter and jaded I have become that I think that it’s within the realm of possibility that Trump himself ordered a hit on both Epstein and Giuffre. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/207 "2025-11-15T03:02:06Z")
Yes, but the “order” would have been something oblique like, _“Will no one rid me of,”_ etc. That’s all it would take to send one of his loyalists scurrying off to do Dear Leader’s biddibg. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/208 "2025-11-15T03:13:03Z")
Re last post, in Kash Patel’s 2023 book Government Gangsters there is a list of sixty enemies. Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK every one of the sixty is still alive, and none are incarcerated. That’s because Trump is a regular dictator, not some fascist. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/209 "2025-11-15T03:48:21Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK every one of the sixty is still alive, and none are incarcerated. That’s ok then. But “He’s hurting the wrong people” Phullleeeesss. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/210 "2025-11-15T03:51:45Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > It is a mistake to think that Trump’s resistance to release of files is because he thinks there is something in there that will bring him down I’m not so sure. The thing is he hasn’t done this about anything else. The way he’s handled the Epstein Files has absolutely not conformed to the way he’s handled the countless other scandals (any one of which should have doomed his political career). Denial, spurious whataboutism, “flooding the zone” that’s all his MO. Not acting scared and trying to shut the whole thing now in a way that alienates his allies (even uniquely his base, albeit briefly). I didn’t think there was anything in the files that could bring him down (or even seriously hurt him politically), but he’s acting like there is. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/211 "2025-11-15T04:11:28Z")
So what was the reason for Democrats not pushing for release under the Biden administration? It’s hard to imagine Biden throwing support for Trump in a political atmosphere focused on taking him down. Edited to make it a stand-alone question. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/212 "2025-11-15T04:15:11Z")
Biden didn’t campaign on releasing the Epstein files. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/213 "2025-11-15T04:16:03Z")
Doesn’t change what I said one tiny bit. If you want to present an argument that Biden and the Democratic party weren’t out to take Trump down then present your thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/214 "2025-11-15T04:18:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > So there’s an email in the recently released batch of Epstein emails where Mark Epstein asks his brother Jeffrey if Putin “has the photos of Trump blowing bubba.” > > “Bubba” being the nickname of our 42nd president, Bill Clinton. That would give new meaning to the term _One Big Beautiful “Bill”_. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/215 "2025-11-15T05:13:45Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > So what was the reason for Democrats not pushing for release under the Biden administration? Merrick Garland is a useless chickenshit who wouldn’t prosecute Trump for crimes he committed on live television. He wasn’t about to dig up Trump’s sexual misdeeds from the 1990’s and turn them into an obviously politically-motivated prosecution. Also, we do not forgive pedophiles because the prosecution didn’t proceed at the first possible opportunity. Trump desperately wishes it worked that way but it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/216 "2025-11-15T05:19:49Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > It is a mistake to think that Trump’s resistance to release of files is because he thinks there is something in there that will bring him down. And it’s also a mistake to think he is dragging out the file release in order to draw attention away from something else, like inflation. He’s obviously worried about something. During his run in 2024, when asked if he’s release the Epstein Files, Trump said he probably wouldn’t for fear of possibly hurting innocent people. Is empathy something you strongly associate with Donald J. Trump? Has he ever demonstrated genuine concern for the wellbeing of his fellow human beings? No. Trump is only interested in doing something if he’s benefiting from it somehow. Back in 2024, I don’t think he was playing four dimensional chess by setting up the Epstein Files as a possible distraction in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/217 "2025-11-15T05:31:54Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > I didn’t think there was anything in the files that could bring him down (or even seriously hurt him politically), but he’s acting like there is. Yeah, it’s strange. He must know that the files are so corrupted by this point that they are basically worthless. He’s the one who instructed them to be tainted. But maybe he is just too paranoid to really trust that his own stooges wouldn’t fuck him over. Because that’s what he would do in their place. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/218 "2025-11-15T05:34:04Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Merrick Garland is a useless chickenshit who wouldn’t prosecute Trump for crimes he committed on live television. What’s that got to do with releasing the files? Or leaking them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/219 "2025-11-15T05:34:54Z")
Releasing the files would have _violated the norms_. Democrats simply won’t have that. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/220 "2025-11-15T11:43:05Z")
I think you’re thinking of how Republicans operate, not Democrats, and certainly not Biden. It’s not normal for the president to dictate what the DOJ does, and it’s not normal for the DOJ to pursue revenge prosecutions with little merit. It’s likely that there’s nothing criminal about Trump in the Epstein files, and it’s not normal for the DOJ or the administration to release info just to embarrass someone. > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Is this a test of the hypothesis that a dead girl (or live boy) would bring Trump down? They’re saying it’s Giuffre because she stated clearly that Trump never did anything untoward with her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=12)