# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/241 "2025-11-15T18:57:37Z")

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If possible, ol’ Clem and Lurleen in their rascal scooters won’t be as primed to have a hoot at the Trump rallies. Then their chickenshit elected representatives won’t be in Trump’s thrall.

I’m not holding my breath

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/242 "2025-11-15T19:22:33Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> But something stinks here.

> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> I’m not holding my breath

I guess I just found this to be a slightly odd juxtaposition.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/243 "2025-11-15T19:24:47Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I think Epstein can connect Trump to Russia.

I’m likin’ this as a hypothesis.

I don’t think trump fears or has anything to fear regarding sexual revelations. Hell, he’d be proud of them.

But confirmation of firm $$$ connections to Russia-- I believe that would make him lose sleep. And stay away from windows. And decline to open long, skinny boxes from Moscow that might contain umbrellas.

🌂 “Here, J.D., **you** open this one.”

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/244 "2025-11-15T19:33:40Z")

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Good point:

> **[https://preview.redd.it/b3n1tqnikg1g1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=452aa53e713b623ee63e3...](https://preview.redd.it/b3n1tqnikg1g1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=452aa53e713b623ee63e3b08b9f998206b857df8)**

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/245 "2025-11-15T19:41:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I don’t think trump fears or has anything to fear regarding sexual revelations. Hell, he’d be proud of them.

At least one of Epstein’s victims was trans. I can’t find any information that links her to Trump but it would not surprise me if Trump was molesting trans girls in particular. This may explain who “Bubba” is because as fun as it is to think that Trump gave head to Bill Clinton, it just doesn’t seem likely to me.

Epstein’s trans victim is detailed in this section of his Wiki article:

> **[Jeffrey Epstein | Legal issues](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Legal_issues)**
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> Maria Farmer alleges that she reported that Epstein raped her to the New York City Police Department and the FBI in 1996 but nothing was done and his depravity went unpunished for a decade longer. In October 2007, transgender model Ava Cordero alleged that Epstein had abused her and filed suit accordingly, however it was dismissed, with press at the time instead making allegations about Cordero's mental health and mocking her gender identity. Virginia Giuffre was among th According to The Washing...

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/246 "2025-11-15T20:30:53Z")

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What if Lauren Boebert changes her mind, does not support release, 217 votes total? Isn’t that all they need is someone backing out?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/247 "2025-11-15T20:32:58Z")

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There is so much dirt on Boebert out there that she shames every Coloradoan. I sure there is plenty more to dig up to get her to change her mind.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/248 "2025-11-15T20:36:38Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> So what was the reason for Democrats not pushing for release under the Biden administration?

The files were under the seal of the Grand Jury.

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think you’re thinking of how Republicans operate, not Democrats, and certainly not Biden. It’s not normal for the president to dictate what the DOJ does, and it’s not normal for the DOJ to pursue revenge prosecutions with little merit.
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> It’s likely that there’s nothing criminal about Trump in the Epstein files, and it’s not normal for the DOJ or the administration to release info just to embarrass someone.

Right. Sure stuff to embarrass trump, but no criminal indictments for anyone.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Who cares? The files haven’t been released and they should be.

Why?

> [@bobot](#):
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> The Democrats do not use the DOJ as a tool of political retribution.  
> I know, I know. This is an ideal that causes Republicans to do the “confused dog sideways head” gesture.

Right.

> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Why would anyone think that Epstein revelations will materially harm Trump, when
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> 1. there’s been ample time and opportunity to scrub the files of incriminating info
> 2. Even if any remains, its release can be blocked by getting the DOJ to pursue an “active investigation” under which info can be withheld indefinitely
> 3. MAGA would forgive any transgressions because “Democrats are worse”

No “material harm”, but stuff that may embarrass trump.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/249 "2025-11-15T20:44:00Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> At least one of Epstein’s victims was trans. I can’t find any information that links her to Trump but it would not surprise me if Trump was molesting trans girls in particular. This may explain who “Bubba” is because as fun as it is to think that Trump gave head to Bill Clinton, it just doesn’t seem likely to me.

Yeah, Trump absolutely 100% did not give head to Bill Clinton or any other man. This was either a joke, a nonsequitur, or code for something else with someone else.

From what I’ve read of Epstein’s literary voice he sounds like a man who has been speaking in oblique hints, codes, and teasing for so long that he lost all capacity for speaking plainly, even when there’s nothing that needs hiding. Nothing in those mails should be taken as literal fact upon first read.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/250 "2025-11-15T20:48:12Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> This is an ideal that causes Republicans to do the “confused dog sideways head” gesture.

Sidebar/ I ‘trained’ my Chocolate Lab to do the sideways head turn when I said “Are you inquisitive”/sb. Sorry. But it was very cute.

Mostly she was saying, “You’re talking to me, but I don’t know what you mean”

That is DJT entire life.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/251 "2025-11-15T20:54:43Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> What if Lauren Boebert changes her mind, does not support release, 217 votes total?

The discharge petition has already passed, so without access to a time machine her changing her mind now won’t matter.

The actual vote to release the files is expected to have broad support from many Republicans who didn’t sign the petition.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/14/house-epstein-files-vote-00652964](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/14/house-epstein-files-vote-00652964)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/252 "2025-11-15T20:55:49Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Yeah, Trump absolutely 100% did not give head to Bill Clinton or any other man. This was either a joke, a nonsequitur, or code for something else with someone else.

Be that as it may, I still need Clinton to step in front of a camera and declare “I did not have sexual relations with that man”.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/253 "2025-11-15T21:14:13Z")

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Thanks! But still lots of red tape. From your article (not my bolding, from source):

“ **Under the current GOP plan, the House Rules Committee would approve a procedural measure Monday night to advance eight bills for floor consideration, including language to tee up the Epstein legislation. If that measure is approved on the floor, likely early Tuesday afternoon, debate and a final vote on the Epstein bill could immediately follow. GOP leaders are considering whether to postpone the Epstein vote until Tuesday evening.**

**Scores of Republicans are [expected to break ranks and support the bill](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/11/12/congress/house-epstein-vote-gop-defections-00649624), which would then have to be approved by the Senate and signed by Trump to take effect. Neither is likely, but the process could drag out for weeks, extending the controversy over Trump’s ties to Epstein.**

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**The four Republicans who signed on to the discharge petition forcing the vote — Massie, plus Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Nancy Mace of South Carolina — are likely to examine Johnson’s moves very closely. They could together block any procedural measure that would undercut the Epstein legislation, postpone it or otherwise alter it.”**

Won’t be surprised if there’s still no release this coming June.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/254 "2025-11-15T21:34:45Z")

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AIUI, the Rules Committee has already made it clear they aren’t going to engage in shenanigans. It seems pretty certain the bill will pass the House, and probably with enough votes to override a veto, which will place the ball in the Senate’s court.

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> This was either a joke, a nonsequitur, or code for something else with someone else.

A Jewish person’s grandmother?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/256 "2025-11-15T22:58:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Magiver](#):
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> > So what was the reason for Democrats not pushing for release under the Biden administration?
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> The files were under the seal of the Grand Jury.

And that’s exactly where the files are going to be for the duration of Trump’s time in office, thanks to Trump’s order to the DOJ to investigate his political enemies.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/257 "2025-11-15T23:02:39Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Yeah, Trump absolutely 100% did not give head to Bill Clinton or any other man. This was either a joke, a nonsequitur, or code for something else with someone else.

My working theory is that it is a metaphor. Trump wanted something from Clinton, and sucked up to him in order to get it. “Sucked up to him,” is also a metaphor.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/258 "2025-11-15T23:04:03Z")

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This old photo that just resurfaced isn’t gonna help the rumors any;

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreih563ap33fo6o5lygipjkhhhzet2jnwnkrwjuloqxucxjsfbxs65a@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreih563ap33fo6o5lygipjkhhhzet2jnwnkrwjuloqxucxjsfbxs65a@jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/259 "2025-11-15T23:23:31Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> My working theory is that it is a metaphor. Trump wanted something from Clinton, and sucked up to him in order to get it. “Sucked up to him,” is also a metaphor.

Seems reasonable. Recall that Trump used to be a Democrat (or at least was at times registered as one, and friendly with them). I think he was fine with Democrats until Obama became President and roasted him at that one dinner, and until of course he ran against Hillary who treated him like he deserved.

So I could see Trump being really chummy and flattering and obsequious with Bill Clinton, thinking “hey, Clinton is powerful white guy who fools around with young girls, and he’s President, all the things I admire”. Probably shaking him down for favors too, as you mentioned.

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