# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/281 "2025-11-16T04:37:10Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > AFAIK that “island” however has a age of consent of 16, so maybe not to many crimes, but who knows? Transporting minors across state lines for sexual purposes is still a crime, though. > **[2002. Transportation Of Minors (18 U.S.C. 2423)](https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-2002-transportation-minors-18-usc-2423)** > > This is archived content from the U.S. Department of Justice website. The information here may be outdated and links may no longer function. Please contact webmaster@usdoj.gov if you have any questions about the archive site. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/282 "2025-11-16T04:37:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Transporting minors across state lines for sexual purposes is still a crime, though. The island is in the US Virgin islands, IIRC? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/283 "2025-11-16T04:38:35Z")
Right, which means they had to be transported out of their state of origin to get them there. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/284 "2025-11-16T06:00:33Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > Megyn Kelly is getting roasted over saying if the girl is 15, its not pedophilia. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > If you want to be pedantic Kelly is correct. It is ephebophilia but I really wouldn’t fight for that hill. Exactly. Who in their right mind would want to be accused of being a pedophile and respond with “well, technically…”? Kelly also did something really shitty to try to change the discourse. She described these girls as “barely legal”. No, they are not barely legal. They are illegal for sexual purposes, end of story. But there she is trying to frame it as “close enough”. Disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/285 "2025-11-16T06:57:17Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > If you want to be pedantic Kelly is correct. It is ephebophilia but I really wouldn’t fight for that hill. > [@DWMarch](#): > > Exactly. Who in their right mind would want to be accused of being a pedophile and respond with “well, technically…”? Right, there’s a comedian who made a similar point: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nu6C2KL_S9o/maxresdefault.jpg "R. Kelly is not a p\*dophile (technically speaking) | Gianmarco Soresi | Stand Up Comedy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu6C2KL_S9o) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/286 "2025-11-16T07:36:56Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Why would anyone think that Epstein revelations will materially harm Trump, when I wouldn’t think there was anything in there that would materially harm him were it not for Trump himself. He’s terrified. You make some valid points, nothing in the past has turned Trump’s supporters against him, so why would I expect anything different now? While I’m not going to get my hopes up, if the likes of MTG can turn against him I can’t help but feel a little hopeful. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/287 "2025-11-16T08:18:14Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I just finished reading Giuffre’s book, and I’m doubting that that particular redacted name was hers. She mentions Trump a few times, but she never mentions spending any time with him or talking with him, let alone hours. He was very peripheral in her story. It’s just so very convenient for Trump/Leavitt to name Giuffre, as you say. The unredacted letter was released and it does indeed say “Virginia,” though I suppose it’s possible that there is another woman named Virginia that it’s referring to. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/288 "2025-11-16T12:07:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Then, like many boomers with failing mental faculties, Fox News melted his brain. I think the “melted brain” hypothesis deserves a lot more credit than it gets, but I think it’s more to do with social media. There is a broader trend where famous celebrities and rich people got on social media, and were suddenly faced with proof that they’re not nearly as loved as they thought, and in fact broadly despised. So they start down on whatever ideas soothe their egos and diminish their critics. And social media was right there to supply what they needed, in the form of nutjobs who reinforce those beliefs. To be clear I don’t believe one goes full brain-melt racist without being a fundamental racist in the first place, but I think it should be better appreciated that a lot of these people have gone insane simply by 24/7 reinforcement of their own inner dialogue loops, which they mainline even harder when they’re criticized. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/289 "2025-11-16T15:00:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Be that as it may, I still need Clinton to step in front of a camera and declare “I did not have sexual relations with that man”. It would be much funnier if he just said “that depends on what your definition of the word ‘is’ is” with a wink ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/290 "2025-11-16T15:31:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Then, like many boomers with failing mental faculties, Fox News melted his brain With Trump specifically I think there was something else at work, namely the Apprentice. The producers of the Apprentice effectively invented the persona that Trump ran on for president, as this callous but effective master business tycoon. It was written for him just as much as the character of Walter White was for Bryan Cranston, and has as much in common with the real Trump as Walter White does to Bryan Cranston. But Trump believed it. He brought into the bit and that’s what got us here. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/291 "2025-11-16T16:05:12Z")
[The Legal Eagle YouTube channel](https://youtu.be/TlFSlp0a5Vc?si=tnDJPLzXVSLKdcmO) has an episode devoted to the Epstein emails. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/292 "2025-11-16T16:08:53Z")
I’d be curious to know more about November 10, 2018 if anyone can find emails that reference a trip to Paris, or meeting with Trump associates near that date. > **[A Fun Day in Paris](https://publius2point0.wordpress.com/2019/07/15/a-fun-day-in-paris/)** > > In the news just before November 10, 2018: Flight logs: Tom Barrack November 10, 2018 – November 11, 2018 – Jeffrey Epstein November 7, 2018 – November 11, 2018 – Donald Tru… E.g., I’ve found this mention of Steve (Bannon?), “Republicans”, and Turkey on November 16: > **[Pinpoint](https://journaliststudio.google.com/pinpoint/document-view?collection=092314e384a58618&utm_source=collection_share_link&p=1&docid=52cad9004526851a_092314e384a58618_0&dapvm=2)** I’m trying to track down whether Bannon was in Paris that day. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/293 "2025-11-16T16:15:03Z")
Looks like it would have been a chunnel away: > **[Emails highlight Jeffrey Epstein and Steve Bannon relationship](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgy81jlxqgo?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Byahoo.north.america%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D)** > > New documents show the pair discussing travel arrangements and UK politics in messages from 2018. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/294 "2025-11-16T16:50:25Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > The unredacted letter was released and it does indeed say “Virginia,” though I suppose it’s possible that there is another woman named Virginia that it’s referring to. Thanks. Of course, it could have made so little impression on her it didn’t seem worth mentioning in the book. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/295 "2025-11-16T17:09:03Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’d be curious to know more about November 10, 2018 if anyone can find emails that reference a trip to Paris, or meeting with Trump associates near that date. I’m not following…what’s the significance of this? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/296 "2025-11-16T17:34:39Z")
No idea, really. Epstein mentions meeting with Trump a few times but there’s no particular reason to believe that, at the moment. I can see, within the dump, that he’s downloaded full books of information about Trump and various other topics. Likewise, he’s posting lots of links to new stories. He seems to have been researching and following information on a variety of topics - potentially to be able to con his way in as an “insider”. In general, we shouldn’t take Epstein’s statements that he was meeting with Trump at face value. But in this one instance, we know that Trump, Tom Barrack, and Epstein all passed through Paris on the same day. We also know that Trump got into trouble that day for blowing off a scheduled run to the US military graveyard. We don’t know what the was doing instead. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/297 "2025-11-16T17:54:51Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I can see, within the dump, that he’s downloaded full books of information about Trump and various other topics. Likewise, he’s posting lots of links to new stories. Bear in mind that some of this correspondence was with author Michael Wolfe, who was asking for his take on various book drafts. And Bannon was working on a documentary. > **[Steve Bannon’s Secret Epstein Videos: The Tale of the Tapes (Exclusive) ](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/jeffrey-epstein-steve-bannon-1236325072/)** > > He says it’s a documentary. But the 15 hours of footage Bannon shot with Jeffrey Epstein were reportedly training for a '60 Minutes'-style redemption tour that never happened — and paid for by Epstein himself. So, some of what Epstein was reviewing was probably related to that project, as well. Interesting, though, that we aren’t seeing anything regarding financial advice. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/298 "2025-11-17T04:03:16Z")
Trump’s desperately trying to make it look like he still has control of Republicans in the House. [https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/16/jeffrey-epstein-vote-house-republicans-00652460](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/16/jeffrey-epstein-vote-house-republicans-00652460) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/299 "2025-11-17T04:11:00Z")
If he wants to stop the vote on Tuesday, all Trump has to do is tell his DOJ to release the files on Monday. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/300 "2025-11-17T04:21:25Z")
Well guess what? > **[In reversal, Trump says House Republicans should vote to release Epstein files](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/many-house-republicans-back-bill-181353912.html)** > > President Donald Trump said House Republicans should vote to release the files in the Jeffrey Epstein case, a startling reversal after previously fighting the proposal as a growing number of those in his own party supported it. “We have nothing to... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=16)