# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/521 "2025-12-23T20:08:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Honestly, I think the letter is too good to be true. And I have trouble believing if it existed that it’s only just now being revealed. Now I’m doubting myself. CNN seems to give it credence, and they apparently reported on it back in 2023, though they didn’t know the contents of the letter at the time. > **[Letter signed by ‘J. Epstein’ to Larry Nassar cites “our president” | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/23/politics/larry-nassar-epstein-files-letter)** > > Warning: This post contains language readers may find disturbing. It might really be legit. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/522 "2025-12-23T20:10:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It might really be legit. From what I’ve seen of Epstein’s writing style, it rings true to me. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/523 "2025-12-23T20:11:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It might really be legit. And if it is? > [@Moriarty](#): > > Our president also shares our love of young, nubile girls. That proves nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/524 "2025-12-23T20:15:56Z")
Another file, recently been removed from the DoJ website: > **[American Opposition (@americanopposition) on Threads](https://www.threads.com/@americanopposition/post/DSncE1NkbKK?xmt=AQF0Z8Uq8KonC_rjVLD8SCjuT3AzEQu6EoQrf37hH6H6rIw7uOMnMcDjiBfJmfyOPekBf50Z&slof=1)** > > “\[Trump\] was present when my uncle murdered > my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.” —A 13-year-old he raped > > Today must be the final day of his... (Don’t know if that link to the screenshot will work, so here’s some of the info from the file) > “[Trump] was present when my uncle murdered > my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.” —A 13-year-old girl > > [https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf?media\_id](https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf?media_id) Not sure who the uncle is, nor when Donald Trump would’ve ever been on Lake Michigan, but that is some fucked up shit. Eta: reading the first part of that now-disappeared file, the 13-year-old was raped and pregnant in 1984. How long had JE and DJT been friends and doing this shit? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/525 "2025-12-23T20:16:22Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That proves nothing. You seem to be the only person in the thread who is looking at this strictly from the perspective of who can be prosecuted. Of much more interest is what it says about Trump and other famous figures, and if this will be damaging in ways beyond prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/526 "2025-12-23T20:18:00Z")
Here’s a scan of the Nassar letter; [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:r6wxaadynk3m7sqsyn3r3vrf/bafkreicnjojfh6rp2hluumplmdsz7lu5e4ctbk2nxppmjxzcxoy3wbaz3y@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:r6wxaadynk3m7sqsyn3r3vrf/bafkreicnjojfh6rp2hluumplmdsz7lu5e4ctbk2nxppmjxzcxoy3wbaz3y@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/527 "2025-12-23T20:20:11Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > You seem to be the only person in the thread who is looking at this strictly from the perspective of who can be prosecuted. Look at the title- “trump Impeachment & conviction?” Yes, like I said many times- some stuff will embarrass trump and hurt his popularity. But his core will just claim “faked”. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/528 "2025-12-23T20:20:59Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > The Nassar letter just seems fake to me. Likewise, internet comments are focusing on an accusation that Trump was present while a victim’s father murdered her baby, another salacious accusation that’s almost certainly bogus. It conjures up images of witch hunts in Early Modern Europe and the McMartin Pre-School Trial in the 1980s. It just doesn’t seem the least bit credible. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/529 "2025-12-23T20:22:55Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Look at the title- “trump Impeachment & conviction?” Impeachment is a purely political process. If the House chooses, they could charge Trump and the Senate could convict. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/530 "2025-12-23T20:23:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Look at the title- “trump Impeachment & conviction?” An impeachment in the Senate is not a court of criminal law. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/531 "2025-12-23T20:26:15Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Impeachment is a purely political process. If the House chooses, they could charge Trump and the Senate could convict. That’s true. But I see zero interest by Republicans in either chamber doing anything like that. _Perhaps_, if something really bad comes to light, enough House Republicans will get on board. But the Senate? I’m skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/532 "2025-12-23T20:28:02Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Impeachment is a purely political process. If the House chooses, they could charge Trump and the Senate could convict. Not until the Dems get 67 senators. Which, frankly, aint gonna happen. But if trump was criminally convicted of rape, maybe some GOPers would move across the aisle. But as shown- there is no solid criminal evidence. > [@Procrustus](#): > > That’s true. But I see zero interest by Republicans in either chamber doing anything like that. _Perhaps_, if something really bad comes to light, enough House Republicans will get on board. But the Senate? I’m skeptical. Correct, 51% of the House? Sure, and it has happened before. 67 Senators? Nope. So, maybe in 2027 with the new 2026 elections and a slight Dem majority- he will be impeached by the House- again. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/533 "2025-12-23T20:44:10Z")
> **[TikTok Users Claim They’ve 'Unredacted' the Epstein Files - Decrypt](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tiktok-users-claim-ve-unredacted-190022220.html)** > > TikTok users say they’re exposing hidden text in Epstein documents via redaction flaws—but experts warn viral claims may outrun the facts. > Users are reporting success with two primary, low-tech methods to reveal information hidden beneath blacked-out sections. > > The first involves a common “copy-paste” flaw found in some PDF documents. Instead of permanently removing the underlying text data, the redaction tool merely placed a black image over it. Users discovered they could highlight the blacked-out area, copy the text, and paste it into a separate document to read the hidden words. This type of faulty redaction is a known digital security error that has occurred in previous high-profile cases, allowing information to be easily retrieved. > > The second method targets scanned image documents where redactions may have been applied using a semi-transparent digital tool rather than a solid mask. By taking a screenshot and using standard phone editing features—increasing exposure and brilliance while lowering contrast—users claim they can “see through” the virtual ink to decipher the text beneath. ---
**Author:** ![Meatwater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meatwater/32/20074_2.png) [@Meatwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatwater)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/534 "2025-12-23T21:54:57Z")
I’m of two minds that either the persons did this intentionally to comply with the regime and still get it out there, or they are truly that incompetent. However based on empirical evidence I’ll go with the latter. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/535 "2025-12-23T23:38:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > now they’re going to hang “NO COLLUSION!” signs on the front of all the podiums again Or rather “No rape.. wait we mean no rape of children.. ok, no rape of children specifically with Jeffery Epstein” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/536 "2025-12-24T01:52:13Z")
Internet law-talkin’-guy T. Greg Doucette says the Nassar letter is almost certainly real despite DOJ’s denial. > **[T. Greg Doucette (@gregdoucette.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/gregdoucette.bsky.social/post/3mao346yh3c2e)** > > Found the Associated Press article where the existence of this letter was first disclosed two years ago, in response to a FOIA request > > It's definitely... > **[T. Greg Doucette (@gregdoucette.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/gregdoucette.bsky.social/post/3mao2anwlxc2e)** > > Agreed. If it's a fake, it's a created-in-real-life fake done and mailed before Epstein's death, and DOJ kept it as potential evidence for whatever reason. It's not a digital fake... > **[T. Greg Doucette (@gregdoucette.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/gregdoucette.bsky.social/post/3manzp4vos22e)** > > US Bureau of Prisons has an inmate locator, many state+municipal systems do too. Finding him post-conviction would not have been hard IMO > > https://bsky.app/profile/profdaf.bsky.social/post/3man6t3pzak2p > > \[contains quote post or other embedded... > **[T. Greg Doucette (@gregdoucette.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/gregdoucette.bsky.social/post/3mao2dismls2e)** > > It also makes sense as "a thing inmate pedos do" -- being pen pals, whining that they're unfairly being held accountable, etc > > It's definitely real IMO > > https://bsky.app/profile/ashituna.bsky.social/post/3mao2ai26ns2y > > \[contains quote post or other... > **[T. Greg Doucette (@gregdoucette.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/gregdoucette.bsky.social/post/3mao3trwpjs2e)** > > The postmark is not indicative of that. Inmate mail goes through a bureaucratic review process in between when the inmate drops it off to when it gets to the post office > > This was reported on by the Associated Press two years... It’s kinda funny that DOJ rushed to call it fake when, if the letter is real, it’s solid evidence that Epstein was planning to kill himself. If it’s not real, it just raises further questions, like -”who had the ability and motive to plant a letter in the federal prison mail system implying that Epstein was suicidal?” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/537 "2025-12-24T15:55:19Z")
The letter does seem to be real - i.e. the authentic product of Jeffrey Epstein - I just wouldn’t be certain that it’s an authentic accusation given that Epstein was being held prisoner at that moment in time by Donald J Trump and had a strong motive to dick with him. It _could_ be accurate, I just wouldn’t put much weight onto it when we’ve never even heard of Epstein and Nassar even knowing each other. Evidentiarily, the revelation that Trump flew with underaged victims with Epstein and Ghislaine seems far more damning. Trump was running Miss Teen USA. He might have had some reasonable, non-creepy cause to be out with a few teenaged girls, professionally. But, Epstein did not. He didn’t own a modeling company. He didn’t have any part in Miss Teen USA. He was a financier or something. Trump was there, seeing the guy hanging out constantly with female only 14 year olds. If the guy was calling them “masseuses”… Well, even for the mental genius that is Donald Trump, that’s not a hard 2 and 2 to put together. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/538 "2025-12-24T16:08:26Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Not sure who the uncle is, nor when Donald Trump would’ve ever been on Lake Michigan, but that is some fucked up shit. You are referring to this document, I believe. (It’s a PDF) > **[EFTA00025010.pdf](https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf)** > > 147.31 KB It includes this note: [![](https://i.ibb.co/RkP93gN6/IMG-2142.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/RkP93gN6/IMG-2142.png) If you can’t read it, it says that somebody is reporting to the FBI that Trump “was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan” I have absolutely no idea if this is accurate, or even remotely plausible. But what astounds me is the fact that the Qanon crowd, who saw evidence of child abuse in pizza orders, isn’t freaking out right about now. Talk about a reason for a conspiracy minded individual to go wild. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/539 "2025-12-24T16:14:15Z")
I have no doubt that it’s a real letter with a real postmark sent from the prison, I just don’t see any evidence that Epstein wrote it. It doesn’t look like his handwriting, it doesn’t look like his signature _at all_, the timing is too suspicious, and T. Greg’s Doucette’s confident assertion that prison pedos becoming pen pals is _totally_ something that happens just sounds like made-up nonsense. I don’t even think it’s a “hoax” in terms of whoever wrote it thinking that anyone would take it seriously. I think it was just a joke. Like Epstein shows up dead and some guard or inmate is like “Wouldn’t it be funny if…” and whips up a postcard. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/540 "2025-12-24T16:34:20Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I just don’t see any evidence that Epstein wrote it. Perhaps it was Epstein’s mother? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=28)