# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/541 "2025-12-24T16:41:39Z")
Okay, I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/542 "2025-12-24T16:56:35Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I don’t even think it’s a “hoax” in terms of whoever wrote it thinking that anyone would take it seriously. I think it was just a joke. Like Epstein shows up dead and some guard or inmate is like “Wouldn’t it be funny if…” and whips up a postcard. Planting fake evidence in a homicide investigation doesn’t seem like the kind of thing one does for shits and giggles. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/543 "2025-12-24T16:58:13Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Not sure who the uncle is, nor when Donald Trump would’ve ever been on Lake Michigan, but that is some fucked up shit. > > Eta: reading the first part of that now-disappeared file, the 13-year-old was raped and pregnant in 1984. > [@Odesio](#): > > It conjures up images of witch hunts in Early Modern Europe and the McMartin Pre-School Trial in the 1980s. It just doesn’t seem the least bit credible. OK so y’see, that if anything is something that _helps_ Trump supporters precisely because it’s SO over-the-top, so Satanic-panic McMartinesque, as **Odesio** puts it. It will just be used to damage the credibility of other accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/544 "2025-12-24T17:08:14Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He was a financier or something. One of his clients was Victoria’s Secret CEO, Les Wexner. IIRC from the documentary I watched a while back, he used that position to sleep with young/new models in exchange for furthering their career. He didn’t work for Victoria’s Secret, specifically, but they didn’t know that. > **[Victoria's Secret: Angels and Demons (TV Mini Series 2022) ⭐ 6.3 | Documentary](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19784922/)** > > | TV-MA ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/545 "2025-12-24T21:19:32Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > If you can’t read it, it says that somebody is reporting to the FBI that Trump “was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan” I don’t doubt Trump is enough of a scumbag to be indifferent to, or even party to, such a thing. But I don’t see him being present at such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/546 "2025-12-24T21:23:15Z")
This person claims the incident happened in 1984, which is before Trump and Epstein even met, so this particular claim can likely be set aside as the ravings of a lunatic. There was a woman in Florida who sued Trump earlier this month with some similar far-fetched stories about Trump gang-stalking her and stealing her inventions and something to do with 9/11 happening on her daughter’s birthday because of Trump. This feels similar to that. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/547 "2025-12-24T21:26:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Planting fake evidence in a homicide investigation doesn’t seem like the kind of thing one does for shits and giggles. Of all the blindingly insane things that I have seen people do, and heard people say this year, on camera, in public, and sometimes at a podium in front of millions, I would not put it past some additional moron to do some unthinkingly dumb thing like that. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/548 "2025-12-24T21:48:14Z")
Interesting news: > **[Officials discover a million more documents potentially related to Epstein case](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czdgz84dn35o)** > > The US Department of Justice says reviewing the material could delay release by a "few more weeks". I’ve generally presumed that, over the course of Trump’s two terms, he’s had trusted people going through and sorting, appraising, destroying, and hiding materials. But, likewise, I had some hope that someone would keep a reserve for the day that Congress demanded a blitz release. Good job, mystery FBI person! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/549 "2025-12-24T21:54:49Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’ve generally presumed that, over the course of Trump’s two terms, he’s had trusted people going through and sorting, appraising, destroying, and hiding materials. It would appear that the SDMB’s collective belief in the competence of Trump’s DOJ at going through and reacting the Epstein files before they could be released was ill-placed. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/550 "2025-12-24T23:51:11Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > One of his clients was Victoria’s Secret CEO, Les Wexner. Who appears in the new document dump as one of the ten co-conspirators. [Wexner named in released Epstein email about 'co-conspirators' in sex trafficking case | WOSU Public Media](https://www.wosu.org/politics-government/2025-12-23/wexner-named-in-released-epstein-email-about-co-conspirators-in-sex-trafficking-case) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/551 "2025-12-25T00:01:58Z")
Wexner’s protege Mike Jeffries is essentially the Jeffery Epstein of (very) young men. Les keeps interesting company. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/552 "2025-12-25T00:43:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It would appear that the SDMB’s collective belief in the competence of Trump’s DOJ at going through and reacting the Epstein files before they could be released was ill-placed. If I calculate correctly, one million pages would be a stack the height of 30 story building. But what they supposedly just found isn’t one million pages, but one million documents. Am I correct in guessing that lots of the documents are dozens of pages long? Are we perhaps talking about the equivalent of an Empire State Building height pile of paper? [DOJ says ‘over a million more’ documents possibly tied to Epstein case uncovered and will take weeks to release them all](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-update-doj-b2890270.html) > [@](#): > > So far, approximately 750,000 documents in [the convicted sex offender’s case](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeffrey-epstein-files-released-trump-justice-department-b2888271.html) have been reviewed and released by a team of 200 people, a Trump administration official told [_Axios_](https://www.axios.com/2025/12/24/epstein-files-release-trump-doj-timing), which reports a “palpable sense of exasperation” over the crisis behind closed doors. 1000000 / 200 = 5000 remaining documents per team member. If it takes an hour to do each document, this implies a couple years. And an hour sounds too quick to me. Consider that if you are at all serious about keeping out the names of victims, someone has to double-check the work of each redactor. Plus there have to be managers to, among other things, deal with the incompetents. I know there are incompetents because the best employees are pulling in favors to avoid having to do such mind-numbing work. That what I would do if given such a job. The fact of us being able to undo lots of redactions is proof of incompetence. Maybe they learned their lesson there. But [the redactions on the first 750,000 failed at the basic task of blacking out victim names.](https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/22/politics/epstein-survivors-files-redactions) If we take this out of the context of Trumpism, I’d say the redaction process needs to slow down. Even if Harris was president, one year for redactions would be unrealistic. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/553 "2025-12-25T01:20:12Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Consider that if you are at all serious about keeping out the names of victims, someone has to double-check the work of each redactor. Plus there have to be managers to, among other things, deal with the incompetents. We’d be lucky if it was single-checked. Based on some of the mistakes I’ve seen, they’ve been using AI to do redactions - one memo, for example, redacted the name of the sender, but not the title “US Attorney, Southern District of New York” immediately after it. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/554 "2025-12-25T08:08:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It would appear that the SDMB’s collective belief in the competence of Trump’s DOJ at going through and reacting the Epstein files before they could be released was ill-placed. There may be millions of documents overall. Redacting and releasing all of those may, to be sure, a Herculean task even when managed by competent leaders. But that’s not what I was talking about. Among all the documents about all the different aspects of Epstein’s life, I’d expect that a lot of them are about his financial situation, tedious conversations about real estate transactions, emails that have him flirting with people, etc. But how much - particularly if Trump was never a subject of investigation - of that is liable to actually even mention the current President? And of that percentage, what smaller percentage is actually damning in some clear and obvious manner? It may be that the size of Donald Trump’s crimes and complicity grow and shrink exponentially when you add or remove a single document from the whole collection. Processing millions of documents for public consumption is a large task. Throwing a single paper into the fireplace is but a moment of work. Knowing that there may have been a hidden set of copies is encouraging. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/555 "2025-12-27T00:01:03Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > t _could_ be accurate, I just wouldn’t put much weight onto it when we’ve never even heard of Epstein and Nassar even knowing each other. Prisoners write to other prisoners without having previously known each other all the time. Prison is boring. Nasser was infamous for the same thing Epstein was infamous for----abusing minor females. The idea that one might be intrigued by the other and interested in reaching out isn’t far-fetched at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/556 "2026-01-07T16:16:39Z")
The mass media has the memory of a gnat. Last week, the number of Epstein files was 5.2 million: > **[Department of Justice is reviewing over 5.2 million Jeffrey Epstein files](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/department-of-justice-is-reviewing-over-5-2-million-jeffrey-epstein-files)** > > The figure is the latest estimate in the expanding review of case files on Epstein and his longtime girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell that has run more than a week past a deadline set in law by Congress. Now it’s suddenly down to 2 million, and no one seems to have noticed enough to call it out: > **[More than 2 million Epstein files still to be released, DOJ says in court filing](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-files-doj-court-filing-millions-files-donald-trump-rcna252516)** > > So far, only 12,000 documents containing 125,000 pages have been released in three tranches. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/557 "2026-01-07T16:31:34Z")
The set of [_files being reviewed_] doesn’t seem to be the same as the set of [_files to be released_]. Plus these don’t seem to be firm numbers – the 5.2 million figure was described as an estimate, and presumably includes some material on the fringe of “needs to be released”/“need not be released”. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/558 "2026-01-07T17:30:28Z")
In theory, it’s reasonable, yes. But that’s a theory, not a fact. For the news to not comment on it, not question it, etc. is just laziness. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/559 "2026-01-07T22:30:45Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > For the news to not comment on it, not question it, etc. is just laziness. Yes, they’d be more worthy of respect if they’d break down the numbers (‘files being reviews’ versus ‘files to be released’ etc.). As it stands they seem to be merely throwing out large numbers. It’s tough to see that as reliable information. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/560 "2026-01-08T00:14:16Z")
Though, one should note that “files to be reviewed” and “files to be released” should be the same number, except maybe for deduplication. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=29)