# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/41 "2025-11-11T16:29:18Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Who’s gonna be the brave soul, when they can just keep riding the whirlwind of stupid?

The one whose constituents cannot support Trump amid what is revealed in the files. If saying “F trump” gets a congressmember re-elected, that’s exactly what they are going to do. A politician’s first priority is the next election.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/42 "2025-11-11T16:51:32Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> We know that Virginia Giuffre was recruited from Mar-a-lago by Epstein.

Ghislaine Maxwell. Although she recruited Giuffre for Epstein. I’m currently reading Giuffre’s book, and it’s just so sad.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/43 "2025-11-11T22:08:03Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> when they can just keep riding the whirlwind of stupid?

But that’s the key point. They _can’t_ just keep riding the whirlwind of stupid.

The recent election shows that the SS Trump has started sinking and the smarter rats are making plans for getting off the ship.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/44 "2025-11-11T22:13:57Z")

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I like your optimism.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/45 "2025-11-11T22:23:17Z")

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“The Republicans” could beat Trump. But the problem is, “The Republicans” isn’t an entity that’s trying to do that. If the party as a whole stabbed Trump in the back, the party as a whole would thrive, but the decisions aren’t made by the party, but by individuals. And any individual who stabbed Trump in the back would get primaried by someone more loyal to Trump (or at least, who appeared to be more loyal to him).

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/46 "2025-11-11T22:25:24Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But that’s the key point. They _can’t_ just keep riding the whirlwind of stupid.

They’ve been riding the whirlwind for the better part of a decade now. While I agree they can’t just keep riding it forever, I have no idea when they’ll get off.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/47 "2025-11-11T22:32:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I like your optimism.

It’s not an optimistic view. It’s a belief that says the Republican party has long term plans for destroying our democracy, civil rights, and the rule of law that will outlast Trump.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/48 "2025-11-11T22:41:05Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> The one whose constituents cannot support Trump amid what is revealed in the files. If saying “F trump” gets a congressmember re-elected, that’s exactly what they are going to do. A politician’s first priority is the next election.

To the extent Trump can assure them that the “election” will go as he says it will go, to that extent they will be willing to go on pretending Epstein never existed.

Just a tall tale, an urban myth!

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/49 "2025-11-11T23:38:50Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The only “fantasy” here is that these magical “files” contain stuff bad for trump.

I mean, what is currently in the public domain about Trump and Epstein is absolutely bad stuff.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/50 "2025-11-11T23:42:24Z")

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And what’s currently in the public domain about Trump and sexual abuse of minors is also bad stuff. That was already in the public domain before his first election. It didn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/51 "2025-11-12T00:02:16Z")

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I’m starting to come around to the opinion that if evidence surfaced that showed Trump was beyond all doubt guilty of raping children who had been kidnapped and trafficked…

Then, the MAGAts would declare pedophilia to be a fantastic thing that everyone should do, that raping young girls was just fine. And the other R’s would go along, or just say “Oh, I have not heard anything about that, I’m just much too busy.”

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/52 "2025-11-12T00:26:09Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> “The Republicans” could beat Trump. But the problem is, “The Republicans” isn’t an entity that’s trying to do that. If the party as a whole stabbed Trump in the back, the party as a whole would thrive, but the decisions aren’t made by the party, but by individuals. And any individual who stabbed Trump in the back would get primaried by someone more loyal to Trump (or at least, who appeared to be more loyal to him).

And it turns out that absolute selfishness is a terrible ideology for producing somebody who will risk themselves for the party.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/53 "2025-11-12T00:37:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Republicans in congress, and most other Republicans, would shoot themselves in the head before convicting Trump of anything.

I would _love_ to see that position tested.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/54 "2025-11-12T15:52:30Z")

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I’m going to post this here instead of resurrecting older Epstein threads. I’m guessing this topic will be floating to the top of the pond scum that is the current news, since the House is reconvening.

WaPo gift link.

> # House Democrats release Epstein email that claimed Trump ‘spent hours’ with victim
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> _In the 2011 email, the disgraced financier wrote to Ghislaine Maxwell that Trump had “spent hours at my house” with one of Epstein’s victims and that encounter “has never once been mentioned” by police._
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> [https://wapo.st/43rVKQr](https://wapo.st/43rVKQr)
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> …  
> In the 2011 email released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, Epstein wrote to Ghislaine Maxwell, his partner who was later convicted of sex trafficking, that Trump had “spent hours at my house” with one of Epstein’s victims and that encounter “has never once been mentioned” by police. Epstein called Trump a “dog that hasn’t barked.”  
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> _This is a developing story and will be updated._

(Italics in original.)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/55 "2025-11-12T16:26:47Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m starting to come around to the opinion that if evidence surfaced that showed Trump was beyond all doubt guilty of raping children who had been kidnapped and trafficked…
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> Then, the MAGAts would declare pedophilia to be a fantastic thing that everyone should do, that raping young girls was just fine. And the other R’s would go along, or just say “Oh, I have not heard anything about that, I’m just much too busy.”

You’re only just now starting to think that? It’s been obvious for years. He is known to have acted as a peeping tom at his beauty pageants, spying on women changing. Some of them were fifteen years old. He admitted it. He boasted of it. He thinks that a history of sexual assault makes him a successful ladies’ man.

Of course they won’t hold it against him.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/56 "2025-11-12T16:45:55Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Of course they won’t hold it against him.

I know a MAGA woman who said she would let Trump grab her by the pussy (remember that quote?) because he has the right policies. So I don’t think MAGA will turn on Trump no matter how bad the Epstein files are regarding him.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/57 "2025-11-12T17:19:16Z")

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I just saw that on Brian Tyler Cohen’s YouTube channel. Trump isn’t directly implicated in the emails, so I’m sure that’s going to be the right-wing talking point.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/58 "2025-11-12T17:42:40Z")

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Ewww! 🤮 Eye bleach!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/59 "2025-11-12T17:49:16Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I know a MAGA woman who said she would let Trump grab her by the pussy (remember that quote?) because he has the right policies. So I don’t think MAGA will turn on Trump no matter how bad the Epstein files are regarding him.

Ask them “What policies? Bigotry? Rape? Pedophilia? Racism? Stealing from the poor to give to the rich?”

You could go on, and on and on.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/60 "2025-11-12T17:52:05Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Ask them “What policies? Bigotry? Rape? Pedophilia? Racism? Stealing from the poor to give to the rich?”

She would probably say, “For a start.” This person turned down a great job offer because, “I can’t work for **her**.” Her boss would have been from India and apparently an Anglo working for a brown person goes against God’s law.

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