# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![JoePockets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@JoePockets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoePockets)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/761 "2026-02-09T19:15:52Z")

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Maxwell states she will give information clearing Trump and Clinton of all wrong doing for clemency? Sounds like a classic Quid pro quo to me !

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/762 "2026-02-09T20:03:25Z")

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> [@JoePockets](#):
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> Sounds like a classic Quid pro quo to me !

AKA “business as usual”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/763 "2026-02-09T20:43:11Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> To tamper down the expectations:

Good cite.

_But while investigators collected ample proof that Epstein sexually abused underage girls, they found scant evidence the well-connected financier led a sex trafficking ring serving powerful men, an Associated Press review of internal Justice Department records shows._

_Videos and photos seized from Epstein’s homes in New York, Florida and the Virgin Islands didn’t depict victims being abused or implicate anyone else in his crimes, a prosecutor wrote in one 2025 memo._

_An examination of Epstein’s financial records, including payments he made to entities linked to influential figures in academia, finance and global diplomacy, found no connection to criminal activity, said another internal memo in 2019._

> [@enipla](#):
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> He killed himself because he was innocent.

" **But while investigators collected ample proof that Epstein sexually abused underage girls, …"**

Not innocent at all.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/764 "2026-02-09T20:50:47Z")

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Not really what I meant. I think he was killed. But not because of HIS guilt/pedophilia. Others did not want that information to get out.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/765 "2026-02-09T21:36:14Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Sort of sounds like a friend of his.

What I was trying to say is that there was more than a little Jay Gatsby in Epstein. He wasn’t a manipulator or a pimp - he was a hanger-on, a deluded wannabe who thought that rubbing elbows with the beautiful people would make him one of them.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/766 "2026-02-09T22:09:17Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> What I was trying to say is that there was more than a little Jay Gatsby in Epstein. He wasn’t a manipulator or a pimp - he was a hanger-on, a deluded wannabe who thought that rubbing elbows with the beautiful people would make him one of them.

That’s Trump too. He’s a laughingstock. He so wanted to be on the ‘in’ crowd.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/767 "2026-02-09T22:43:08Z")

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The difference is that like it or not, Trump has actual power. All Epstein had was connections.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/768 "2026-02-09T23:03:05Z")

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The (checks notes) international convention for paleontology enthusiasts is doing more to hold the Epstein class accountable than our government.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:duasgcxtlf3hcbvytqdt2gcs/bafkreigmnxwebrjofzf5nwekmwfhlszyojfgvff2ioyv3ih3kzri32q7oq@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:duasgcxtlf3hcbvytqdt2gcs/bafkreigmnxwebrjofzf5nwekmwfhlszyojfgvff2ioyv3ih3kzri32q7oq@jpeg)

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/769 "2026-02-09T23:21:43Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> What I was trying to say is that there was more than a little Jay Gatsby in Epstein.

Then there is a little bit of Epstein in the real-life model for Gatsby:

[Max Gerlach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerlach)

I tried a few AI’s asking for historical figures similar to Epstein. This is not because AI has a clue, but to generate ideas.

One idea is [Giacomo Casanova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giacomo_Casanova).

Another is Bernie Madoff. This of course makes the most sense if Epstein can be seen primarily as someone who got prominent people to pay ridiculous sums for financial advice, with most of his associates not involved in sex crimes.

My current hypothesis, regarding there being a historical model for Epstein, is that no two humans are the same, and he’s a good example of it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/770 "2026-02-09T23:49:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The (checks notes) international convention for paleontology enthusiasts is doing more to hold the Epstein class accountable than our government.

One of those paleontologists is Jack Horner. (A very nig name in modern paleontology.)

> **["Extremely poor judgment!": Horner responds to Epstein email controversy](https://www.kbzk.com/news/local-news/extremely-poor-judgment-horner-responds-to-epstein-email-controversy)**
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> Former Montana State University professor and well-known paleontologist Jack Horner responded Thursday afternoon to reports that he had emailed the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2026, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/771 "2026-02-09T23:51:34Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The (checks notes) international convention for paleontology enthusiasts is doing more to hold the Epstein class accountable than our government.

I wish the federal government had the decorum and integrity of “DinoCon”.

🤦‍♂️

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/772 "2026-02-10T01:45:24Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I wish the federal government had the decorum and integrity of “DinoCon”.

DinoCon is engaging in guilt by association. I’m against it.

Even worse is their secondary guilt by association:“executive committee members of organizations that are not issuing public bans to these individuals are also banned from these events.”

Taking the secondary guilt by association literally, if the Catholic church doesn’t excommunicate every Catholic in the Epstein files, all executive committee Catholics are banned from paleontology events. I suppose the most charitable interpretation is that they didn’t think this through.

As for the government punishing people for guilt by association, I prefer due process of law.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/773 "2026-02-10T02:18:27Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Taking the secondary guilt by association literally, if the Catholic church doesn’t excommunicate every Catholic in the Epstein files, all executive committee Catholics are banned from paleontology events.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/774 "2026-02-10T02:25:13Z")

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Trump from 2019-the present; I knew nothing about Epstein, nobody knew what Epstein was doing

Trump in 2006: Epstein? Oh yeah, he’s a pedophile and everyone knows about it

[https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/775 "2026-02-10T02:57:29Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The (checks notes) international convention for paleontology enthusiasts is doing more to hold the Epstein class accountable than our government.

That is ridiculous overkill. Some of those just went on Epstein’s Jet as part of a trip to Africa for the Clinton Foundation- 24 years ago. But now, not only those people but anyone who associated with those innocents are now blacklisted. Shades of the anti-commie Hollywood blacklist hysteria.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> One of those paleontologists is Jack Horner.

And all he did was travel to Epsteins ranch in Arizona to try and get a donation- which he did. For that he is blacklisted and so is anyone not openly banning him.

This is ridiculous hysteria. Releasing the Epstein files has done hundreds of times more harm than good.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> DinoCon is engaging in guilt by association. I’m against it.
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> Even worse is their secondary guilt by association:“executive committee members of organizations that are not issuing public bans to these individuals are also banned from these events.”

I concur. Just get a free jet ride- **Blacklist!!!** Ask for a donation to a worthy cause- **Blacklist!!!**

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/776 "2026-02-10T03:08:30Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Some of those just went on Epstein’s Jet as part of a trip to Africa for the Clinton Foundation- 24 years ago. But now, not only those people but anyone who associated with those innocents are now blacklisted.

The statement from DinoCon says it only applies to people who were associated with Epstein after he was convicted for child prostitution in 2008. Someone who “went on Epstein’s Jet as part of a trip to Africa for the Clinton Foundation- 24 years ago” would not be included.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And all he did was travel to Epsteins ranch in Arizona to try and get a donation

In 2012. Four years AFTER he pledged guilty to being a pedophile.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/777 "2026-02-10T03:09:41Z")

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Who’d have thought paleontologists would be so devoted to digging up things from the past?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/778 "2026-02-10T03:57:45Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The statement from DinoCon says it only applies to people who were associated with Epstein after he was convicted for child prostitution in 2008. Someone who “went on Epstein’s Jet as part of a trip to Africa for the Clinton Foundation- 24 years ago” would not be included.

Indeed that person was one their list according to a news article about Dinocon.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> In 2012. Four years AFTER he pledged guilty to being a pedophile.

So what?

I had a buddy who was a convicted felon, done his time- a year- and lived a honest life after that.

So, just associating with someone who committed a crime is now wrong?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/779 "2026-02-10T03:59:23Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I had a buddy who was a convicted felon, done his time- a year- and lived a honest life after that.

Would you describe Jeffrey Epstein as someone who “lived an honest life” after 2008?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2026, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/780 "2026-02-10T04:00:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Would you describe Jeffrey Epstein as someone who “lived an honest life” after 2008?

No, but would others know that? His later issues came as a shock and surprise to many.

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