# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/861 "2026-02-14T22:00:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Just read your own cite. OK! “Lifetouch is owned by Apollo Global Management Group, an assets management firm co-founded by billionaire Leon Black, a key source of Epstein’s wealth.” “And, while Black has since stepped down as Apollo Global Management Group’s CEO, new details about his relationship with Epstein revealed recently – along with the company’s new CEO, billionaire Marc Rowan” > **[age-verify](https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet%2010%2FEFTA02064367.pdf)** > **[age-verify](https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet%2010%2FEFTA02064367.pdf)** Just a child rapist buying a child photography company and then passing it off to his buddy who breakfasts with another child rapist they’re mutual friends with. Nothing to see here. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/862 "2026-02-14T22:08:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Lifetouch is owned by Apollo Global Management Group, an assets management firm co-founded by billionaire Leon Black, a key source of Epstein’s wealth.” Yes. Neither of them have _anything whatsoever_ to do with the day to day running of one of the many companies they manage the assets of. They did not “run” Lifetouch. Do you understand how an asset management company works? Nor are either of them a “child rapist” in fact as said here- > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Black was kicked out of the holding company five years ago for Epstein guilt by association. He ran the holding conglomerate, not the picture-taking. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/863 "2026-02-14T22:28:21Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Nor are either of them a “child rapist” in fact as said here The “either of them” I was referring to are Black and Epstein. The files contain multiple descriptions of child rapes committed by Black. > **[age-verify](https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet%2012%2FEFTA02731488.pdf)** If you’re going to claim that Epstein wasn’t a child rapist, then I don’t know what to tell you. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Neither of them have _anything whatsoever_ to do with the day to day running of one of the many companies they manage the assets of. They did not “run” Lifetouch. Do you understand how an asset management company works? Oh, so the pedophiles _own_ the company that photographs millions of children every year, but they don’t _run_ it. I guess that makes it OK! You should trust them with pictures of your children! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/864 "2026-02-14T22:34:16Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The “either of them” I was referring to are Black and Epstein. Epstein had nothing whatsoever to do with Lifetouch. Nor does Black, since he has been gone over 5 years ago. I > [@Smapti](#): > > Oh, so the pedophiles _own_ the company that photographs millions of children every year, but they don’t _run_ it. No, one guy- Black- **WAS** the CEO of the asset management company. Again, do you understand how an asset management company works? Read up on things before i will reply to you again. And note- the accusations against Black have not been verified. They are simply accusations, not proof of anything. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/865 "2026-02-14T22:39:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Epstein had nothing whatsoever to do with Lifetouch I don’t think you’re following what I said. > [@Smapti](#): > > Just a child rapist **(Black)** buying a child photography company and then passing it off to his buddy **(Rowan)** who breakfasts with another child rapist **(Epstein)** they’re mutual friends with. Nothing to see here. I referred to two people in that sentence, Black and Epstein, as child rapists. You responded; > [@DrDeth](#): > > Nor are either of them a “child rapist” I never claimed Rowan was a child rapist. He may be, but that’s not in evidence yet. Your statement is incorrect. > [@DrDeth](#): > > No, one guy- Black- **WAS** the CEO of the asset management company. Correct. Black, who rapes children, ran the company that owns the company that takes pictures of children, and it is now owned by Rowan, who is friends with two people who rape children. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Again, do you understand how an asset management company works? I understand that child rapists and their associates shouldn’t be CEOs of them if they own companies that take pictures of children. > [@DrDeth](#): > > once their name has been mentioned in these bogus files- your reputation is blackened forever. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2026, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/866 "2026-02-14T23:24:15Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > In general, I’m focused on the fact that only half the documents have been released. > > To be sure, some of it might be duplicates but we’ve been told, expressly, that there’s no one to investigate and nothing that’s sensitive to national security so… What exactly is the basis for withholding? This is a good question. If the 3 million (give or take) Epstein documents being withheld are simply duplicates of those already released, then why not release them so that people can verify the DOJ claim for themselves? And that’s the essence of it: _ **no one really believes that DOJ claims can be trusted** _. The default theory is that the withheld 3 million documents are those that are MOST dangerous to Donald and his donors. And the DOJ isn’t going to do anything to disprove this theory—they’re just going to go on making unverifiable claims. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2026, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/867 "2026-02-15T05:38:19Z")
I think the fallacy here is that someone with a deviant sexual interest in under-18s finds everyday photos of school-age children titillating. I suppose it’s possible, but seems unlikely. Moral panic, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2026, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/868 "2026-02-15T20:50:23Z")
Good NPR article [https://www.npr.org/2026/02/14/nx-s1-5714609/epstein-europe-fallout](https://www.npr.org/2026/02/14/nx-s1-5714609/epstein-europe-fallout) _Prominent Americans with apparent ties to Jeffrey Epstein — including President Trump and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick— have so far largely kept their positions of power._ Note that Lutnick has _admitted_ going to Epstein island, so it is more that a slight tie or allegation. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2026, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/869 "2026-02-15T23:40:45Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > the fallacy here is that someone with a deviant sexual interest in under-18s finds everyday photos of school-age children titillating A worry today might center not around the photos themselves, but on how they might be employed by AI to create ‘new’ content featuring that particular child’s face and/or body. Not something we had to think about even a few years ago, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/870 "2026-02-16T04:47:00Z")
Yikes. That hadn’t occurred to me, though AI could probably do the same thing without a new photo. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/871 "2026-02-16T06:13:36Z")
Just FTR, this is not hypothetical. Musk’s AI Grok actually was doing this just about a month ago. > **[Musk's xAI faces backlash after Grok generates sexualized images of children...](https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-sexualized-images-children.html)** > > Users on X raised concerns over explicit content of minors being generated using Musk's Grok tool. AI will produce just about anything you tell it to if the proper guard rails and safety standards are not in place. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/872 "2026-02-16T07:23:34Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > AI will produce just about anything you tell it to if the proper guard rails and safety standards are not in place. And IMHO even when they _are_ because it’s not easy to define in a way the LLM can process which images can be generated and which cannot and even if they can process they are not (again IMHO) reliable in obeying the restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/873 "2026-02-16T15:44:14Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I think the fallacy here is that someone with a deviant sexual interest in under-18s finds everyday photos of school-age children titillating. I suppose it’s possible, but seems unlikely. I’m not taking a side in this fight, but I just want to point out that the problem people have with the whole situation isn’t that a pedophile will use AI to make pornographic pictures based on the photos, but rather that billionaire pedophiles will use the pictures like a menu. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/874 "2026-02-16T15:44:44Z")
This probably belongs in conspiracy theory territory and I hate that my brain even went there, but this company does more than just take photos, am I right? Do they gather the names and addresses of these kids to send the pictures to later? For all we know, this was like a sears catalog for these sick fucks. This might be bigger than pizza gate. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/875 "2026-02-16T16:33:34Z")
At least there is a rational-ish CT logic to that extrapolation. This whole thing keeps expanding beyond what we would have ever thought as absurd though. I do worry that if we keep giving credence to everything anyone ever mentioned, it may get to the point that regular people _ **will** _ go beyond the “well f&$( it, we can’t go after EVERYONE ever mentioned” position to the “oh nevermind” position. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/876 "2026-02-16T16:48:36Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > but rather that billionaire pedophiles will use the pictures like a menu. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > For all we know, this was like a sears catalog for these sick fucks. Considering these were replies to a post from two days ago, that was quite the simulpost. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/877 "2026-02-16T16:58:20Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > This might be bigger than pizza gate. Bigger than a thing that didn’t happen? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/878 "2026-02-16T20:04:36Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > For all we know, this was like a sears catalog for these sick fucks. One alleged- altho the allegations are better than many- guy ran the asset management company. He had nothing whatsoever to do with the day to day running of Lifetouch. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > This might be bigger than pizza gate. Entirely fake news. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/879 "2026-02-16T20:09:23Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Bigger than a thing that didn’t happen? As far as we know they are both things that did not happen. That’s why they’re called conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/880 "2026-02-16T20:21:06Z")
**Moderating:** I think we’ve had enough of the side discussion on Lifetouch. It’s not exactly off topic, but it’s a pretty tenuous link, and doesn’t seem to have enough evidence (at least not yet) to be something that would backsplash much on the Trump administration (the subject of the thread). It may well be worthy of it’s own thread (hint, hint) but I think that the strength and weakness has been about as hashed out as it can in light of _this_ thread based on current cites. If new information comes to light with a more concrete link with political consequences to Trump and supporters, then we can reconsider it. > **How to Reply as a linked Topic** > > Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. > > Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. > > That is actually the best method. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733.md?page=45)