# Epstein Files =\> Trump Impeachment & Conviction?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 10, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733 "2025-11-10T17:42:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1102 "2026-09-19T23:30:40Z")

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I will withhold a magical disappearing sausage joke to point out that any innocent bystanders outed as a result of this, or a previous release were outed by the administration via the administration’s pathetic cover up and failure to release these files in an honest way.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1103 "2026-09-20T00:14:00Z")

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I did hear a good joke. If someone would just take the Epstine files and post them to the walls of the Kennedy Center, then Trump will finally have his name all over it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1104 "2026-09-20T02:04:34Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Have any people “on the outskirts” had their lives “ruined by association” from previous releases of Epstein files? I

Innocent people—mostly the survivors and victims of Jeffrey Epstein—have been severely harmed by the release of the Epstein files due to major government redaction failures

[https://www.wsj.com/opinion/jeffrey-epstein-files-congress-victims-trump-administration-d3b62e3b](https://www.wsj.com/opinion/jeffrey-epstein-files-congress-victims-trump-administration-d3b62e3b)  
_unredacted files exposed the names, home addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, and private emails of nearly 100 abuse survivors, many of whom had never shared their identities publicly or were minors at the time of the abuse_

> **[Epstein’s victims say others abused them. Files shed little light on how...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/22/us/epstein-files-sex-trafficking-allegations-invs)**
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> There is little clarity in the DOJ’s Epstein files release on how investigators pursued the leads from victims who alleged sexual abuse by other men.

_When the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) released millions of pages of investigative records following a congressional mandate, technical and human errors led to botched redactions_

> **[Thousands of Epstein documents taken down after victims identified](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0k65pnxjxo)**
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> The US Department of Justice faces criticism from victims after names and unredacted images included in latest release.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0ypO6OidYRY/hqdefault.jpg "Epstein victims face new attacks after exposure by DOJ") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ypO6OidYRY&t=2s)

> Nearly two dozen accusers faced severe online abuse, threatening phone messages (including images of assault rifles), and real-life intimidation, such as strangers photographing their homes or suspicious cars lingering outside.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> David Copperfield lost his residency at the MGM Grand and has had to retire from magic, to name one.

So, far, due mostly by incompetence on the part of the current administration, dozens if not hundreds of victims and survivors have had their lives ruined. Not on single US indictment has come out of them. My suggestion would be to publicly destroy all those files. Calling for more is just calling for more innocent prople to be hurt.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1105 "2026-09-20T02:13:16Z")

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Sorry, I specifically tried to keep my question focused on those people “on the outskirts” of the files whose “lives and reputations” were ruined. I am aware of the incompetence and malice of the DOJ with regard to victim redactions, and it is indeed terrible.

So far in answer to that specific question what we have is David Copperfield losing a residency in Las Vegas. Anyone else?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1106 "2026-09-20T02:18:24Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Sorry, I specifically tried to keep my question focused on those people “on the outskirts” of the files whose “lives and reputations” were ruined. I am aware of the incompetence and malice of the DOJ with regard to victim redactions, and it is indeed terrible.

But Is that not enough? How many more victims and survivors do we need to ruin their already terrible lives even more?

And for what? No good has come out of the “files”.

And there is Jack Horner, a top paleontologist that has been fired, shunned and banned. He did ask for funding in 2012 from E.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1107 "2026-09-20T02:26:34Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> But Is that not enough?

That is not a question I am qualified to answer or trying to answer - I would defer to Epstein’s victims to see what they want. I am trying to learn whether innocent people named in the previously released files had their lives ruined, as you predicted would happen with another release. That’s all.

So far the answer appears to be: two people. I haven’t yet had a chance to research what their actual ties to Epstein may have been and how much, if any, their lives have been ruined. But at least I have some names I can check out now, so I do appreciate the answers.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1108 "2026-09-20T02:31:40Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> . I am trying to learn whether innocent people named in the previously released files had their lives ruined, as you predicted would happen with another release. That’s all.
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> So far the answer appears to be: two people.

No, _dozens if not hundreds of victims and survivors_. yeah, maybe only a handful of peripheral people, but you can not ignore all the victims who have had their lives ruined- twice.  
I do not know why you are focusing only on the peripheral people instead of the victims. So, it is  
“only” two peripheral people and 100(?) victims. Are those 100 or so victims not enough?

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1109 "2026-09-20T02:40:23Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Are those 100 or so victims not enough?

Maybe? I really don’t know, because I’m not trying to answer that difficult ethical question at the moment. I understand your repeated position, and I am not saying it is without merit, but I am just trying to learn some facts about which I am currently ignorant.

For what it’s worth, with regard to your question of is it worth it, [some Epstein victims very much want all files released](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyz9pvwlw9o).

ETA: Presumably they want them released with proper fucking redactions this time.

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**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1110 "2026-09-20T02:43:49Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> So far the answer appears to be: two people.

Both Jack Horner and David Copperfield had accusations of misconduct before the Epstein Files. That’s why their names stood out from many of the others. It’s not clear to me that they were collateral damage.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1111 "2026-09-20T02:49:09Z")

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Seems like you’re safe as long as you don’t share a name with a boy from British literature.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/epstein-files-trump-impeachment-conviction/1024733/1112 "2026-09-20T03:09:50Z")

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Here’s the proposed new law that sounds likely to pass;

> **[Text - H.R.9694 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Epstein Files Transparency Act II](https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/9694/text/ih)**
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> Text for H.R.9694 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Epstein Files Transparency Act II

So if I understand, the victims can sue to have documents released about which they have no knowledge. How is that supposed to work?

Now, the victims also have rights to see unredacted versions of documents that refer to them. This sounds useful, which it is reasonably clear who was a victim.

My guess is that, considering all the duplication, and the inconsistent redactions in those duplicates released, they have already released the great majority of what they have. Given the low level of care done in the earlier release process, any effort to shield a particular perpetration was unlikely to succeed. So it is always going to be claimed that there are more documents being held back, regardless of whether the Attorney General is Republican or, perhaps in 2029, Democratic. Do I have that right?

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