# Equipose, we know you're a movie snob, get over yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874 "2012-06-12T03:48:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/101 "2012-06-14T10:41:56Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > I’m not the slightest bit familiar with that nor do I wish to indulge in links to internet-funny websites. But since when did did it become necessary to write en pointe to avoid confusing those those who cannot, or do not wish to, discern clear hyperbole? If local theaters show _very few_ watchable films that are neither sequels nor in franchises, **Twickster** ’s comment was clearly meaningful (if perhaps too boldly stated). > > It’s one thing to encourage others to seek out smaller-budget or independent films, but quite another to berate such persons for browsing the traditional venues and judging the offerings to be underwhelming. That’s blaming the victim. And how many screens are showing all of the movies **Equipoise** mentioned, compared to how many are showing _The Avengers_? Even Hollywood executives have written about how little creativity is going in to developing movies in recent years, and how there is too much emphasis on remakes, sequels and adaptations from comic books. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/102 "2012-06-14T11:11:25Z")
> [@Syme](#): > > It seems to me, you are one of those who believe that ‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder’. That’s OK with me. I am not one of those who think that “beauty is simply in the eye of the beholder” well maybe it is, in a simplistic way. But art is not necessarily beauty, if you think that cinema is not an art, just entertainment then no more needs to be said about art. Go and continue to enjoy whatever you enjoy. > > Don’t get me wrong, I like Ms Equipoise, I like her zest, her enthusiasm for movies, even her profanity. This is why I have commented on her. > I think my comments about Ms Equipoise touched a sensitive nerve in you. I find it funny that you think I am all over the place when I was using _your post_ as a guideline to post on the topics you discussed. Thank you for critiquing my post though, considering the topic that gives me extra lulz. And no, no sensitive nerve. I just think you’re back pedaling now from your original position where you insinuated that she doesn’t know trash from treasure. I’m not sure I follow your logic in assuming that because I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder (and gosh, thank you for being okay with that I do, you are most generous) that somehow means I do not consider cinema to be art. Art _is_ entertainment is many ways. Books, music, and cinema are all forms of art and of entertainment. It’s silly to think they can’t be both. And as in any form of art there are differences of opinion even among “experts” in each medium depending on what they do and don’t enjoy. Yes, some experts can praise style and still not like the aesthetic, but that’s no different than in movies. I can think Dinero is FANTASTIC in a bad movie, but that’s just my opinion. It isn’t any more or less valid than your opinion or anyone else’s because I’m judging it by my taste as I don’t really care what yours are. Just like **Equipoise** judges things based on what _she_ likes. Although you certainly seem to softening your words now, you certainly did insinuate that because she likes so many movies she doesn’t know (your words) trash from treasure. In that phrase you are dismissing her opinion as less than yours. You are not the arbiter of what is or isn’t good for anyone other than yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/103 "2012-06-14T12:17:46Z")
The only thing Equi is guilty of fellating in a theater is “Attack the Block.” EIGHT times. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/104 "2012-06-14T12:20:07Z")
> [@Syme](#): > > [COLOR=“black”]Well, after going with a fine tooth comb through the list of her favourite movies so kindly provided. I have come to the following conclusions : > > a) I can’t see any rhyme or reason in her selection. It seems to me every movie she sees becomes automatically a favourite, well, almost every movie. Oh god, I don’t have time to read everyone’s posts until later (I overslept) but it seems there’s a misunderstanding. That list was not of my “favorites” it was just the _ **list of films I saw in 2011!** _ starting in January and ending in December. I wish I’d gotten up earlier. Later… ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/105 "2012-06-14T12:45:27Z")
Ok, I’ve showered and have about 3 minutes before leaving to go catch my bus. I don’t know what those blocks of texts say, but I won’t be able to read or respond until later this evening (no net access at work, then a movie). So whatever’s going on, I will find out. Oversleeping sucks. I’ll make it to work on time, easy, but no time to sit down and find out what people are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Syme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Syme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syme)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/106 "2012-06-14T13:56:34Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I find it funny that you think I am all over the place when I was using _your post_ as a guideline to post on the topics you discussed. Thank you for critiquing my post though, considering the topic that gives me extra lulz. And no, no sensitive nerve. I just think you’re back pedaling now from your original position where you insinuated that she doesn’t know trash from treasure. > > I’m not sure I follow your logic in assuming that because I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder (and gosh, thank you for being okay with that I do, you are most generous) that somehow means I do not consider cinema to be art. Art _is_ entertainment is many ways. Books, music, and cinema are all forms of art and of entertainment. It’s silly to think they can’t be both. And as in any form of art there are differences of opinion even among “experts” in each medium depending on what they do and don’t enjoy. Yes, some experts can praise style and still not like the aesthetic, but that’s no different than in movies. I can think Dinero is FANTASTIC in a bad movie, but that’s just my opinion. It isn’t any more or less valid than your opinion or anyone else’s because I’m judging it by my taste as I don’t really care what yours are. Just like **Equipoise** judges things based on what _she_ likes. > > Although you certainly seem to softening your words now, you certainly did insinuate that because she likes so many movies she doesn’t know (your words) trash from treasure. In that phrase you are dismissing her opinion as less than yours. You are not the arbiter of what is or isn’t good for anyone other than yourself. I am not back pedalling at all. There is trash and there is treasure. And there are persons who can tell the difference and there are those who can’t. Cinema can be art, and by the way I never said that cinema couldn’t be art and entertainment. However, It doesn’t mean that every movie is an artistic expression, in the same way that not every painting is art. If beauty is simply in the eye of the beholder, then It would be pointless to have competitions of any kind or to award prizes to some movies for instance at the expense of others. In this case art wouldn’t exist. The drawings of a toddler would be as good or beautiful as a drawing by Rembrandt, specially if they were your kid’s drawings. No need for museums of course. By reducing everything to just ‘taste’ (some people like the taste of apples and some don’t) then you dismiss art and you would be able to say for instance: “You think my little 5 year old Mary’s painting is not as beautiful as that one by Rembrandt ? well let me tell you this : My opinion is, her painting is as beautiful, but that’s just my opinion. It isn’t any more or less valid than your opinion or anyone else’s because I’m judging it by my taste as I don’t really care what yours are. You are not the arbiter of what is or isn’t good for anyone other than yourself.” When someone believes that beauty is simply whatever whoever thinks it is beautiful and that’s that then it is pointless to discuss movies or art in any form. So I’ll stop here. But before I go, may I recommend to you a book that was the flavour of the month a long time ago. It was a quest for an answer of what is good and what is bad not only in regard to ethics but aesthetics as well. in brief, it was a search for a definition of Quality. It has a long title : “Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance” but it is not a long book. Chao. ---
**Author:** ![Syme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Syme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syme)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/107 "2012-06-14T14:02:18Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Oh god, I don’t have time to read everyone’s posts until later (I overslept) but it seems there’s a misunderstanding. That list was not of my “favorites” it was just the _ **list of films I saw in 2011!** _ starting in January and ending in December. > > I wish I’d gotten up earlier. Later… No harm done. My mistake. There were some really good movies in your list, and some atrocious of course. I am glad you saw some real masterpieces: I have never seen the complete version of Eisenstein 's Battleship Potemkin in its entirety. When he was in Mexico he made some drawings which are just beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/108 "2012-06-14T18:38:34Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Although you certainly seem to softening your words now, you certainly did insinuate that because she likes so many movies she doesn’t know (your words) trash from treasure. In that phrase you are dismissing her opinion as less than yours. You are not the arbiter of what is or isn’t good for anyone other than yourself. **Equipoise** likes so many movies because **Equipoise** _sees_ so many movies. She lists 366 movies seen in 2011, which is several hundred more than the average person, so of _course_ she’s going to have seen at least a hundred more films she really enjoyed than the average person. And it’s clear from her list that she has extraordinarily broad taste… > [@](#): > > 1. Weekend @ Siskel (1967 Jean-Luc Godard) I don’t get Godard but I keep trying. Bless him, he out-Weirds Lynch by a mile (love Lynch btw) 24 Nov > > 2. 3 @ Siskel. I usually scorn adultery in movies but this Tom Tykwer film is so unique & interesting & the ending so perfect-loved it. 24 Nov > > 3. Arthur Christmas @ RE21. Hats off to @PeteLordAardman & everyone involved with this very funny and delightful movie. Adored Arthur! 24 Nov > > 4. Happy Feet 2 @ RE21. Only thing that worked, timing-wise between 1-3. I couldn’t stand the music, but otherwise it had its moments. 24 Nov > > 5. Hugo 2D @ RE21. I saw adv screening weeks ago but husband hadn’t seen it, delighted to show it to him. It works beautifully in 2D. 24 Nov I’m pretty sure that few people who aren’t movie reviewers would have seen those five films on the same day. And unlike a movie reviewer, she was able to pick and choose which films she saw, so that means she is more likely to see films she is likely to enjoy. One things that some might have missed is this: this is a Twitter list, which meant that she was limited to 140 characters. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/109 "2012-06-14T22:35:39Z")
> [@Syme](#): > > Chao. :rolleyes: Goddamn are you stupid. Don’t use words you can’t spell. Holy shit. What is wrong with your brain? You tried being cosmopolitan and ended up as trailer trash. ---
**Author:** ![Syme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Syme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syme)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/110 "2012-06-14T23:52:19Z")
chao. (Del it. ciao). 1. interj. coloq. adiós (‖ para despedirse). 2. interj. coloq. hasta ahora. [http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/](http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/) ---
**Author:** ![Syme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Syme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syme)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/111 "2012-06-14T23:57:55Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > :rolleyes: > Goddamn are you stupid. Don’t use words you can’t spell. Holy shit. What is wrong with your brain? You tried being cosmopolitan and ended up as trailer trash. trailer trash is what you seem to be. Your profanity, your ignorance, your stupidity, and last but not least your hostility are evidence of you being trailer trash material. what’s wrong with your brain? Chao ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/112 "2012-06-15T01:03:06Z")
Trailer trash fight! Where’s the crew from COPS? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/113 "2012-06-15T01:11:44Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > And how many screens are showing all of the movies **Equipoise** mentioned, compared to how many are showing _The Avengers_? Even Hollywood executives have written about how little creativity is going in to developing movies in recent years, and how there is too much emphasis on remakes, sequels and adaptations from comic books. Then those executives are morons who can’t even be bothered to look at the frontpage of the IMDB (which typically features 2-3 indie movies a week). ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/114 "2012-06-15T01:36:00Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Then those executives are morons who can’t even be bothered to look at the frontpage of the IMDB (which typically features 2-3 indie movies a week). Thank God you’re around to set them straight. Because lots and lots of people go to see Indie movies. Oh wait, I mean pretty much nobody. Pretty much nobody goes to see independent movies or even major studio releases that aren’t comic book adaptations, or remakes, or are original in any way. But, hey, _Attack The Block_ is playing on none screens nationwide! ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/115 "2012-06-15T01:39:18Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > Thank God you’re around to set them straight. Because lots and lots of people go to see Indie movies. Oh wait, I mean pretty much nobody. Pretty much nobody goes to see independent movies or even major studio releases that aren’t comic book adaptations, or remakes, or are original in any way. But, hey, _Attack The Block_ is playing on none screens nationwide! If you think “movies” only qualify for the title when they’re released in theaters (or make said executives any money only during their theatrical run), then you haven’t been paying attention to the movie industry for over 15 years now. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/116 "2012-06-15T01:43:03Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > If you think “movies” only qualify for the title when they’re released in theaters (or make said executives any money only during their theatrical run), then you haven’t been paying attention to the movie industry for over 15 years now. The fucking thread is about movies in theaters, shithead. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/117 "2012-06-15T01:46:00Z")
I am always delighted to see a thread started by Equipoise extolling a movie, because in the end I usually like that movie. Please keep making those threads, **Equipoise**. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/118 "2012-06-15T03:04:48Z")
> [@Syme](#): > > trailer trash is what you seem to be. Your profanity, your ignorance, your stupidity, and last but not least your hostility are evidence of you being trailer trash material. > > what’s wrong with your brain? > Chao Maybe, but I can spell, you fucking retard. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/119 "2012-06-15T03:29:04Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Maybe, but I can spell, you fucking retard. No, you can’t. [“Chao”](http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/chao) IS the correct spelling, you fucking moron. In Italian, it’s “ciao”, but it has an “h” in it when spelled in Spanish. Do you me a favor. Next time, make sure you know what the hell you’re talking about before you start calling people “retards”. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874/120 "2012-06-15T05:04:12Z")
Oh good, it’s turned into a spelling thread. You don’t need me. It’s funny, I got home and sat down and before I could check my email, let alone check this thread, I was asleep in front of the computer. Since I have a very snobby 4 movies (3 indies and 1 classic) planned for tomorrow night, I’m going to bed. I have the whole weekend, no movies planned at all, shockingly enough, to sort all this out. **Maserschmidt** , I scrolled up and saw your post. Thank you so much. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/equipose-we-know-youre-a-movie-snob-get-over-yourself/624874.md?page=7)