# Er 11/30 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 1, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433 "2006-12-01T03:22:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/1 "2006-12-01T03:22:07Z")
Mr. Ames shows up outside Luka and Abby’s place, while Pratt struggles with his recent discovery about his brother. I don’t know if this is a fall finale or not…Don’t they usually do a Christmas ep. of some kind? ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/2 "2006-12-01T04:05:26Z")
Yep, they showed previews for next week’s Very Special Holiday Miracle episode. Interesting new Georgia nurse guy, although him hitting on Sam was rather a disappointment somehow. Yay Luka for manning up to Ames, sure it was wrong and neanderthalish, but it was still hot. Hopefully he and Abby can work thru the inevitable fight well. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/3 "2006-12-01T04:13:41Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Tonya] Interesting new Georgia nurse guy, although him hitting on Sam was rather a disappointment somehow. [/QUOTE] I agree! Sam just doesn’t deserve a decent guy. I mean, she couldn’t even treat Luka well and he’s a sweetie. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/4 "2006-12-01T04:58:38Z")
Whew that was one hot kiss! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/5 "2006-12-01T08:39:39Z")
Morris telling off the surgeon guy was the funniest ER scene in years. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/6 "2006-12-01T13:38:00Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Tonya] Yay Luka for manning up to Ames, sure it was wrong and neanderthalish, but it was still hot. Hopefully he and Abby can work thru the inevitable fight well. [/QUOTE] It was hot? I thought it just made Luka look even more irrational and pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/7 "2006-12-01T13:50:48Z")
Luk shoulda told Ames he’s killed before. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/8 "2006-12-01T15:52:32Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Tonya] Interesting new Georgia nurse guy, although him hitting on Sam was rather a disappointment somehow. [/QUOTE] I was disappointed that the docs referred to him as a male nurse/murse. Malik’s been a nurse on there all this time and they never deferentiate by gender like that. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/9 "2006-12-01T16:02:52Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] I was disappointed that the docs referred to him as a male nurse/murse. Malik’s been a nurse on there all this time and they never deferentiate by gender like that. [/QUOTE] Not having seen the episode, its hard to say for sure but maybe they just don’t like the new guy? ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/10 "2006-12-01T16:45:08Z")
Not thinking that they actively dislike him, but they had some catty comments like “Georgia Peach” for the doe-eyed, pretty young thing that in their eyes was fresh off the turnip truck. Final scene - who else was expecting an interior shot of the cab, the cabbie saying “Where to?” and Ames is at the wheel? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/11 "2006-12-01T17:55:12Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Morris telling off the surgeon guy was the funniest ER scene in years. [/QUOTE] Hell yes. BTW, does “surgeon guy” even have a name? I’ve not heard him being referred to by name on the show. Is that intentional on the part of the writers, I wonder? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/12 "2006-12-01T18:33:04Z")
[QUOTE=bordelond] Hell yes. BTW, does “surgeon guy” even have a name? I’ve not heard him being referred to by name on the show. Is that intentional on the part of the writers, I wonder? [/QUOTE] He certainly has a name. It just doesn’t seem to matter. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/13 "2006-12-01T22:55:00Z")
So…did the young girl cut herself to try to make herself less appealing to would-be rapists? I thought that was the implication from her mom’s conversation with Luka. I would have thought Icepick Guy would lose consciousness long before they pulled the pick out. But I suppose stranger things happen all the time in ERs. ---
**Author:** ![Stainz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stainz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stainz)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/14 "2006-12-01T23:06:35Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages] So…did the young girl cut herself to try to make herself less appealing to would-be rapists? I thought that was the implication from her mom’s conversation with Luka. [/QUOTE] I didn’t quite get that scene at all. Why did a boy kissing her trigger her to do it again? It seemed like an incomplete segment to me. And why was her mother so calm when her daughter told her she knew who did it, but didn’t want to say? It was poorly acted, poorly written, poorly executed imo. Kind of a non-episode for me all around, although I did like Morris telling off whatshisname - is it Reynolds or something? ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/15 "2006-12-02T01:01:29Z")
[QUOTE=vivalostwages] I would have thought Icepick Guy would lose consciousness long before they pulled the pick out. But I suppose stranger things happen all the time in ERs. [/QUOTE] No, that’s actually a shameless copy of a real live person who was hearing voices and stabbed an icepick into his head. (Without subscription access to medical journals, it’s not possible to read them, but [this one](http://www.springerlink.com/content/lp288x9g7122xp82/) seems to be pertinent.) The fellow presented to the ER for some othe complaint - think it was because he was having trouble hearing out of the one ear (!) and being completely oblivious to the icepick that he’d jammed in earlier. Outcome was largely identical to the real life guy as well - He was calm and about as alert and oriented as you could ever hope a persone with an icepick in their head ever could be. Hospital staff tried to pull it out, the handle broke off, and IIRC, they called Maintenance to get some Vise-Grip pliers to pull it out, bandaged up the ear and he went home. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/16 "2006-12-04T19:58:46Z")
Question: I’ve tried to catch up on back episodes on TNT, but for the life of me I relaly can’t figgure this one out. WHere the hell did Courday get to? Last I remember the Former MRs. Green was shagging some random Surgon guy at the hospital (does any one at this place EVERY sleep with someone that they DON’T work with?) , the baby and Mark’s Oldest were always off screen. Next thing I know she evaporated and was never mentioned again. Any help? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/17 "2006-12-04T21:16:31Z")
Courday went home to England with the baby. I forget the reasoning exactly, but she caught the blame for some tragedy at the E/R in a power play. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/18 "2006-12-04T21:21:03Z")
[QUOTE=gotpasswords] No, that’s actually a shameless copy of a real live person. [/QUOTE] I’m a bit puzzled by your use of the seemingly negatively judgmental adjective “shameless”. Isn’t that sort of based-on-real-life story exactly what ER _should_ use? Would you prefer that it make up wacky medical situations that had never ever really happened? ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/19 "2006-12-05T01:05:16Z")
[QUOTE=Telemark] Courday went home to England with the baby. I forget the reasoning exactly, but she caught the blame for some tragedy at the E/R in a power play. [/QUOTE] She also said that the baby wouldn’t have the chance to get to know her English grandparents if she remained in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433/20 "2006-12-05T12:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=Telemark] Courday went home to England with the baby. I forget the reasoning exactly, but she caught the blame for some tragedy at the E/R in a power play. [/QUOTE] IIRC, she was involved in an organ transplant between two HIV-positive patients, which was against regulations, even though they had asked her to do it. One of those “Screw the rules, I’m going with my morals!” things. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/er-11-30/382433.md?page=2)