# Erfworld: Book 2 discussion (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528 "2010-06-09T12:58:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/581 "2016-01-11T14:13:36Z")
> **[Book 3 - Page 124](https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/124)** > > Book 3 - Page 124 Its about to get interesting! ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/582 "2016-01-11T14:30:21Z")
If Charlie is about to attack now, wouldn’t it make sense to crowd the portal with cannon fodder to soak up hits? I was thinking that was Artemis’ plan, but she can’t know about the contract and Parson can’t give orders while he’s not Chief Warlord. Still, I can’t see this going well for Charlie. His best plans have failed, and now he seems to be acting on emotion. Good call on the carnied portal, Tabby\_Cat. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/583 "2016-01-11T15:34:07Z")
Somewhat unclear on the artwork - did Wanda just decrypt a bunch of previously non-aligned casters (as well as the restored semi-Archon)? Because if Gobwin Knob just acquired a bunch of (free!) casters, that’s a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/584 "2016-01-11T15:46:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Somewhat unclear on the artwork - did Wanda just decrypt a bunch of previously non-aligned casters (as well as the restored semi-Archon)? Because if Gobwin Knob just acquired a bunch of (free!) casters, that’s a big deal. I was wondering about that, too. Some of the decrypted looked like MK casters who took hits during Charlie’s attack. I wonder how MK will feel about that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/585 "2016-01-11T16:55:51Z")
If that’s what they are, then that’s far less of an affront to the Magic Kingdom than croaking them in the first place was. And there shouldn’t be _any_ croaked bodies there but casters, because the only non-casters in the Magic Kingdom are Parson’s bodyguard detail, who are already decrypted. I’m puzzled, though, that we didn’t see any corpses there before. I had been pondering before the wisdom (or lack thereof) of Charlie trying to use veiled units to invade the Magic Kingdom, given that every sort of caster we’ve seen seems to have some form of special senses or another. I’ll admit, though, that I overlooked the elephant in the room of special senses, Marie’s predictomancy. Which is a pretty solid trump. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/586 "2016-01-12T19:19:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If that’s what they are, then that’s far less of an affront to the Magic Kingdom than croaking them in the first place was. And there shouldn’t be _any_ croaked bodies there but casters, because the only non-casters in the Magic Kingdom are Parson’s bodyguard detail, who are already decrypted. I’m puzzled, though, that we didn’t see any corpses there before. . . . . We didn’t see corpses, but we saw the characters being hit by bullets. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/587 "2016-01-13T00:07:46Z")
I just noticed the title of the comic. If Parson is player one, who is player 2? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/588 "2016-01-22T07:43:31Z")
should be an interesting battle, what with the financial penalties both sides face everytime they hurt/croak an enemy unit. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/589 "2016-01-22T13:52:53Z")
Indeed. Is Charlie going to incur another violation by sending his archons through the portal? That puts them in the same battlespace as GK, right? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/590 "2016-01-22T15:06:16Z")
Moving into space where the other signatory has units only incurs a penalty if the side HOLDS the territory militarily. The MK is neutral, and no one holds territory there. For purposes of the truce, it doesn’t even count as a hex. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/591 "2016-01-22T17:29:30Z")
Am I the only one who finds [Maggie’s linking spell]([Erfworld Archives - Book 1](http://archives.erfworld.com/Book) 3/127) rather ominous? ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/592 "2016-01-22T18:35:01Z")
I didn’t recognize any of the words, but they typically are some call-out to a meme or trend or pop-sci thing from Earth, right? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/593 "2016-01-22T19:30:32Z")
I didn’t recognize all of them, but Formians are a D&D race of hive-mind extraplanar ant-people, the Borg are Star Trek’s cyborgs who assimilate all living creatures, and Camazotz is the land visited in _A Wrinkle in Time_ where absolute conformity is enforced by mind control from a giant brain-monster. ---
**Author:** ![Unpronounceable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9de0a6/32.png) [@Unpronounceable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unpronounceable)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/594 "2016-01-22T19:34:45Z")
Vortigaunt are the enslaved hive-minded lightning-tossing aliens from the game Half-Life. Borg are hive-minded cyborgs from Star Trek. All about hive-mind, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/595 "2016-01-22T22:35:18Z")
That leaves Ygramul to look up. Ah - It’s (they’re) from The Neverending Story. A spider made of smaller, hornet-like critters, again with a hive mind. Cool. I like the hook at the end: “Then lightning flashed above and bullets rained down on them all.” ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/596 "2016-02-02T01:22:22Z")
So how quickly can Wanda rez the [fallen Archons](http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/130)? Fast enough to have a nice ambush party waiting before the reserves show up? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/597 "2016-02-02T02:27:22Z")
Meanwhile, both sides’ treasuries must be going crazy right around now. Every single hit in this battle is a transfer of 5 million schmuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/598 "2016-02-02T12:30:20Z")
Fun special effects. _Screenshot! Tango Down!_ And are the bullets in the last panel going "[Cee! Que! Dee!"?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CQD) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/599 "2016-02-02T15:59:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > . . . And are the bullets in the last panel going "[Cee! Que! Dee!"?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CQD) Thanks for sharing that. I was puzzled but didn’t think of initials. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528/600 "2016-02-06T04:40:38Z")
Update And now they have a live Archon captive… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-book-2-discussion-spoilers/542528.md?page=31)