# Erfworld: General Discussion \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205 "2009-03-03T23:14:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/281 "2009-11-07T20:56:47Z")
Well, that looks like Parson’s little hobby for Stanley is, ah, paying dividends. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/282 "2009-11-07T21:33:18Z")
Heh. Cubbins’ speciality is hat magic, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/283 "2009-11-07T22:53:07Z")
And it sounds like Gobwin Knob is about to decrypt some very valuable new recruits. They’ve already got four full casters, plus assorted Archons, plus Parson’s mathemancy, and now it looks like they’re going to add at least three more. And given Stanley’s tastes in warlords, I’ll bet that Ossomer is about to replace Ansom as Chief Warlord. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/284 "2009-11-07T23:10:00Z")
Ansom is not going to engage Ossomer’s forces – he’s going to bypass that hex. That’s why all of Ansom’s forces are fliers, and why he told the warlords and caster to mount up – it’s Gobwin Knob’s turn, they still have move to get to Spacerock, and since it’s not Jetstone’s turn Ossomer _can’t_ move to follow. Ossomer is about to go barbarian. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/285 "2009-11-08T01:21:28Z")
Quite so. _ALL_ the casters are in that hex. So… go elsewhere, on the N dragons Stanley picked up. This means the next victory is entirely caused by Stanley. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/286 "2009-11-10T02:08:51Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Ansom is not going to engage Ossomer’s forces – he’s going to bypass that hex. That’s why all of Ansom’s forces are fliers, and why he told the warlords and caster to mount up – it’s Gobwin Knob’s turn, they still have move to get to Spacerock, and since it’s not Jetstone’s turn Ossomer _can’t_ move to follow. > > Ossomer is about to go barbarian. I wonder if Erfworld has ever seen a barbarian contingent with that many assets. Think they might join themselves up with Jillian? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/287 "2009-11-10T05:47:11Z")
> [@](#): > > Ansom is not going to engage Ossomer’s forces – he’s going to bypass that hex. Hm, that does make more sense. And Jetstone has all of their forces piled heavily on that “choke point” that isn’t. I wonder if they might still swing back afterwards to pick up some souvenirs, though… With conventional warfare, there’d be no point, but when you can decrypt defeated enemies, fighting is its own justification. And presumably they’d be easier to beat as barbarians than as a functional side. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/288 "2009-11-10T11:53:36Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Hm, that does make more sense. And Jetstone has all of their forces piled heavily on that “choke point” that isn’t. I wonder if they might still swing back afterwards to pick up some souvenirs, though… With conventional warfare, there’d be no point, but when you can decrypt defeated enemies, fighting is its own justification. And presumably they’d be easier to beat as barbarians than as a functional side. I’m not clear on who would turn barbarian versus who would just vanish if the capital falls. At Unaroyal troops outside the city went “poof”, but Jillian and the casters did not when Faq was destroyed. Will Ossomer and Trammenis find themselves in the midst of a greatly reduced force with their bonuses slashed? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/289 "2009-11-10T16:59:50Z")
Unaroyal’s units all vanished when Queen Bea suicided, because she no longer had an Heir. Trammenis or Ossomer would be Slately’s heir (maybe, both), so I think all the Jetstone forces that aren’t croaked would go barbarian after Slately’s death. They’d have to recapture a capital city to refound their side, though. So once they all go barbarian, upkeep becomes a major concern. Unless they get funded by the RCCII, paying for those casters is going to be a problem for them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/290 "2009-11-12T17:11:04Z")
[New developments](http://www.erfworld.com/) in the battle for Jetstone’s capital city. So, Wanda’s taking a somewhat more direct approach to gathering intelligence, is she? I presume she’s plans to flame Ossomer and Tramennis, then decrypt and debrief.Any thoughts as to what could go wrong, here? She would be violating their diplomatic immunity, after all.Is there something in standard game rules that makes that a problem? Or might something specific to Erfworld make that a problem? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/291 "2009-11-12T18:27:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Any thoughts as to what could go wrong, here? I’m not thinking it will be a Rules problem that burns her, but the fact that Ossomer or Trammenis may not know that, for example, Jillian showed up at Spacerock with an aerial force of gwiffons, megalogwiffs, and Charlescomm archons. So Wanda could _still_ be walking into a trap, but one that she could have learned about had she sent a decrypted archon to scout ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/292 "2009-11-12T18:38:08Z")
Negotiations have been cut off, and the princes expect to be attacked now anyway, I would think. So I don’t think that’s an issue. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/293 "2009-11-13T09:33:11Z")
I think Wanda is planning to kill then decrypt Ossomer or the other one as a means of gathering intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/294 "2009-11-15T06:21:54Z")
[New update](http://www.erfworld.com/), though I’m not sure how to get a permanent link to it. I have to say, the last two panels both pay off. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/295 "2009-11-15T06:31:14Z")
I had my doubts when they announced a new artist, but I have to say that Xin Ye is doing a wonderful job of keeping true to the original designs. The art’s certainly different, but still good, and in a way I like it more. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/296 "2009-11-15T11:56:27Z")
And thus the term “flash mob” is forever redefined in my mind… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/297 "2009-11-16T15:04:09Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > [New update](http://www.erfworld.com/), though I’m not sure how to get a permanent link to it. Click on the title (“Book 2 - Page 6”, in this case) and it will lead to a [permalink for that page](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/11/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-6/). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/298 "2009-11-16T17:57:03Z")
A thought occurs to me: Has it occurred to anyone else that Tramennis might be, ahem, not susceptible to the effects of the flash mob? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/299 "2009-11-16T21:34:57Z")
It has, and there is a clue earlier to it, in that Maggie told Parson to go get his ashes hauled. But really, there’s no strong evidence of it. Just that he’s, ah, very british, not that he’s very gay. (I did love his line about double the dog bowels.) And I think Ansom would know if the flash mob wouldn’t work on him. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/300 "2009-11-16T21:47:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > A thought occurs to me: Has it occurred to anyone else that Tramennis might be, ahem, not susceptible to the effects of the flash mob? Yes, but it also occurred to me that he might succumb to the “Ick! Girly parts!” shock, so it’s probably all good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205.md?page=16)