# Erfworld: General Discussion \[spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205 "2009-03-03T23:14:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/301 "2009-11-16T22:44:23Z")

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> And I think Ansom would know if the flash mob wouldn’t work on him.

Probably, but this plan wasn’t exactly formed or carried out in consultation with Ansom.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/302 "2009-11-19T10:19:39Z")

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Trammenis - [not just comic relief](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/11/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-6-2/).

It looks like Tramennis and Ossomer have a brains-and-brawn thing going.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/303 "2009-11-19T14:28:32Z")

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Am liking the dittomancer.  
Am liking the dittomancer.

(… but who is he supposed to be a ref to?)

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/304 "2009-11-19T17:52:03Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Am liking the dittomancer.  
> Am liking the dittomancer.
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> (… but who is he supposed to be a ref to?)

Elliott the Deadly Duplicator, a copy shop-employed villain in _Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law_. Voiced by Lewis Black. Pretty damn funny.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/305 "2009-11-24T00:36:14Z")

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[New Erf](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/11/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-8/)

Not as easy as Jack described it…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/306 "2009-11-24T02:49:08Z")

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Then again, Wanda didn’t seem to regard it as easy, just doable: “Your bonuses are our only match for Ossomer”, and all. She might have been counting on Jack being able to maintain concentration, though.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/307 "2009-11-24T03:58:36Z")

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I’m wondering if Parson’s awesome tactics are being misapplied by Wanda here. He may have never intended going in Veiled while threatened by enemy archers, but it never came up in the scenarios he played out with Jack.

And, he seemed to have been suggesting actually _scouting Spacerock_ for up-to-date intelligence to Wanda, not capturing the enemy’s Chief Warlord to get it. I’d like to know if he’s back in Efdup saying “She did what?!?” to Maggie and getting berated by the Tool.

… well, I mean, _of course_ he’s getting berated by the Tool. But, you know.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/308 "2009-11-26T14:41:49Z")

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text update

> **[Book 2 - Text Updates 001](https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/37)**
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> Book 2 - Text Updates 001

I personally would rather be back with Ansom et al

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/309 "2009-11-26T17:05:53Z")

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Since these text updates were recently conceived to give Xin more time for her artwork, and since Rob probably already has the art strip storyline well plotted out, all the alternating text updates will probably be vignettes away from the main action.

I’m hoping we get more Klog-like background material, too, out of them.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/310 "2009-11-29T12:00:35Z")

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> **[Book 2 - Page 9](https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/38)**
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> Book 2 - Page 9

next page up

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/311 "2009-11-30T12:18:57Z")

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New text update - [Sizemore and Janis talk about Parson](http://www.erfworld.com/category/book-2-text-updates/).

I keep waiting for Janis and Parson to talk to each other. That’d be…interesting.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/312 "2009-11-30T15:16:55Z")

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I don’t think they will, until the end. There’s a reason Parson’s here, and I’m guessing she might be it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/313 "2009-12-03T09:29:47Z")

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[New comic](http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/?px=%2F2009-12-03.jpg), in which the inevitable happens and Parson is once again vindicated.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/314 "2009-12-03T16:09:34Z")

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I wish panel #2 had been a little clearer so we could tell what was up with Jack.

… wonder if Scarlet will ever get a real name?

Poor Ansom.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/315 "2009-12-03T16:28:09Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> I wish panel #2 had been a little clearer so we could tell what was up with Jack.
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> … wonder if Scarlet will ever get a real name?
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> Poor Ansom.

Jack may well be dead. But he’ll get better. :rolleyes: I wonder how a decrypted Jack’s view of the world would differ from his previous one.

Interesting reaction from Ansom. On the one hand he obviously didn’t want his brother brought over to the Dark Side in the way that he and Wanda have been doing to everyone else; on the other, Ossomer is now on his side, which ought to be a plus for him. I could see Ansom starting to question the morality of their approach from here on out.

Also, Wanda’s response to the last-panel bombshell will probably not be based upon careful consideration or strategic judgment.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/316 "2009-12-03T16:44:24Z")

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I suspect they’re setting up for Ansom to start questioning his Loyalty, but have Ossomer turn out more Loyal than he.

And I don’t think Wanda does _anything_ impulsive, but her gobsmacked expression may what Janis’ predictamancer was talking about.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/317 "2009-12-03T16:45:28Z")

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I guess that leaves Trammenis in charge. I bet hes a lot more Parson-like than Ossomer who seemed like Ansom-lite.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/318 "2009-12-03T18:51:03Z")

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Word. I think a grave tactical error was made in _not_ bringing him along when they fell back from the melee.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/319 "2009-12-04T04:38:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Also, Wanda’s response to the last-panel bombshell will probably not be based upon careful consideration or strategic judgment.

My guess is that she’ll want to bring Jillian around to following her (which may or may not ultimately have anything to do with following Stanley’s crusade for Toolism) without using death and decryption. How she might try to do so, and how much she might compromise Gobwin Knob’s position in the process, remains to be seen…

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/320 "2009-12-09T03:18:32Z")

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[New Erf](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/12/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-11/)

Wherein we learn Jack’s status, more effects of GK being out of favor in the Magic Kingdom, and that Wanda is definitely off her rocker. Damn.

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