# Erfworld: General Discussion \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205 "2009-03-03T23:14:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/361 "2010-01-25T01:00:56Z")
[New text update](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/01/book-2-%e2%80%93-text-updates-011/), giving some hints about what Date-a-mancy does. Between this and the last text update that mentioned hippiemancy and Loyalty, we’re beginning to get a clearer picture of what hippiemancy _does_. Which makes me suspect we’ll soon see Janis more actively involved in the storyline… ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/362 "2010-01-27T10:22:53Z")
> **[Book 2 - Page 18](https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/57)** > > Book 2 - Page 18 Ooooooooh if this goes down Parson will be relevant again. Stanley would be in a baaaad position. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/363 "2010-01-27T11:14:56Z")
I can’t see Wanda agreeing to be under Jillian’s (nominal, at least) control, as she would be if she joined her side. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/364 "2010-01-27T15:48:25Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > [Erfworld Archives - Book 2 - Page 18](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/01/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-18/) > Ooooooooh if this goes down Parson will be relevant again. Stanley would be in a baaaad position. :eek: Parson might be, too. Is there any chance that Parson might be bound to _her_, as the caster who brought him to Erfworld, or does the fact that Stanley’s Schmuckers paid for the spell force Parson to have Duty to Stanley? Or is Parson bound only to Gobwin Knob? If Wanda joins up with Jillian, I’m worried about Jack. . . But those are Stanley’s dwagons her decrypted troops are riding. Is that going to be a problem? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/365 "2010-01-27T17:18:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Is there any chance that Parson might be bound to _her_, as the caster who brought him to Erfworld, or does the fact that Stanley’s Schmuckers paid for the spell force Parson to have Duty to Stanley? Or is Parson bound only to Gobwin Knob? My housemate and I were considering that this very morning. However, in [1:32](http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=/032.jpg), Stanley orders Parson to “Shut up!” and in [1:33](http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=/033.jpg), we see that he is indeed bound to the order. That makes me think that Parson is bound to Gobwin Knob, rather than Wanda specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/366 "2010-01-27T20:52:10Z")
I’m pretty sure that, back when Parson was Chief Warlord, we also saw him issuing orders to Wanda. As (technically) a warlord herself (as all casters are), she can also act on her own initiative, but she’s still subject to orders. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/367 "2010-01-29T15:45:00Z")
Text update. Not much covered > **[Book 2 - Text Updates 012](https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/58)** > > Book 2 - Text Updates 012 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/368 "2010-01-29T18:02:16Z")
Some people just should not try their hand at psychological warfare… ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/369 "2010-02-03T17:47:07Z")
[Fate is a cruel mistress…](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/02/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-19/) ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/370 "2010-02-03T20:27:17Z")
And now we know the _real_ winning condition for the end of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/371 "2010-02-03T23:01:54Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > And now we know the _real_ winning condition for the end of the game. He who dies with the most tools wins? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/372 "2010-02-04T01:37:21Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > And now we know the _real_ winning condition for the end of the game. If Wanda is, in fact correct. Or telling the truth. This just raises so many more questions. Has Wanda actually tried to contemplate the idea of aligning herself _against_ Stanley? What becomes of an Arkentool if its attuned wielder is croaked? Could, for instance, Charlie be croaked, and then Decrypted, and retain his attunement to the Arkendish? Were Wanda to turn the Arkenpliers on a living subject, would there be any effect (I can’t believe it hasn’t occurred to her to try this)? As the only Arkentool wielder who is a caster (as far as we know at this point, anyway), Wanda is in a unique position wrt the Magic Kingdom. What would be the effect of Wanda bringing the Arkenpliers through a portal? I can see I’m gonna have to save up to become a Tool over there. ETA: P.S. Every time this site gets updated, I am just getting so much more into the story. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/373 "2010-02-08T01:19:03Z")
[New text update](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/02/book-2-%e2%80%93-text-updates-012-2/), BTW. Summarizes GK’s forces, gives a bit of insight about Caster levels, and Maggie notices the irregularity in the battle plan. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/374 "2010-02-09T17:55:50Z")
I guess this is going to be where we find out if Stanley is really Wanda’s boss, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/375 "2010-02-10T14:08:07Z")
[New Erfworld](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/02/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-20/) Jillian hints to Wanda about Charlie, and Wanda looks to be in for an unpleasant surprise… ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/376 "2010-02-10T18:57:54Z")
The tighter you grasp, the more… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/377 "2010-02-10T19:57:05Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > [New Erfworld](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/02/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-20/) > > Jillian hints to Wanda about Charlie, and Wanda looks to be in for an unpleasant surprise… Yeah, she might be, at that. > [@Jillian](#): > > My Caster’s on the tower. Let me go order her into the Magic Kingdom. That’s really got some echoes of [“Tell Ansom I’ll be up on the tower parapet in a few minutes to surrender.”](http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F130.jpg) Any guesses what Wanda was rolling for in panel #2? ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/378 "2010-02-10T20:27:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Any guesses what Wanda was rolling for in panel #2? She’s talking about Stanley. Eyerolling is probably reflexive under that circumstance. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/379 "2010-02-18T02:17:17Z")
[New Erf](http://www.erfworld.com/2010/02/book-2-%e2%80%93-page-21/) The moment where the boop hits the fan. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/380 "2010-02-18T04:00:57Z")
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