# Erfworld: General Discussion \[spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205 "2009-03-03T23:14:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/141 "2009-06-23T19:38:34Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > There was an awful lot of death when the volcano went up. I’m prepared to believe all the Archons got aced. Yeah, I can see it happening, it just doesn’t look quite like that here. > [@](#): > > You mean “Then he saw Wanda just standing there, watching him serenely”? That seems consistent with the Archons being under her control. She knows what’s going on, even if Stanley’s confused. But Wanda didn’t just stand there serenely when she was decrypting normal troops. She was reveling in it, joyous. A flight of archons under her control making fireworks over the city as a crowning achievement in front of Stanley? She would have been grinning at the very least, most likely more. > [@](#): > > You’ve never heard of horses bucking at sudden bright displays, or pets getting scared of lightning? Yes. But were the dragons scared? Or angry? Or what? When allowed to do what they wanted to do, they rose up and went after the archons. Attacking enemies? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/142 "2009-06-23T20:53:26Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > But Wanda didn’t just stand there serenely when she was decrypting normal troops. She was reveling in it, joyous. A flight of archons under her control making fireworks over the city as a crowning achievement in front of Stanley? She would have been grinning at the very least, most likely more. She was reveling in her accomplishment of creating the decrypted army, [until Stanley’s cluelessness](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/06/summer-updates-004/) kicked in to deflate it: > [@](#): > > “Well good!” he said confidently. “Did you, uh…get them to do any good tricks yet?” > > Wanda’s smile kind of went limp and her eyes widened. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/143 "2009-06-23T21:14:45Z")
Hmm, ok. I don’t know, it still doesn’t feel like something Wanda would do. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/144 "2009-06-23T21:43:57Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > Hmm, ok. I don’t know, it still doesn’t feel like something Wanda would do. Wanda set it up to rub Stanley’s nose in the fact that she’s got an Arkentool now, and while Stanley may be the Overlord, she’s probably got more power and control (and smarts, of course) than he does now. That’s why she was observing Stanley’s reaction, and that’s why Stanley overreacted. She’s playing head-games with him, and that’s _totally_ something Wanda does. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/145 "2009-06-23T23:35:22Z")
Wanda was probably hoping that Stanley would begin to view her as an equal, now that she was an Arkentool wielder. And she had the pyrotechnics display prepared as a sign of her “respect” for him as an Arkentool wielder. And to show off. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/146 "2009-06-26T14:38:43Z")
You were right, the archons are Wanda’s. 2 arkentools, a fleet of dwagons, a huge army composed of stuff from all over the world… Yeah this is going to be interesting. They can take over the world. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/147 "2009-06-26T16:53:37Z")
If they do take over the world, it’ll be pretty darned _un_interesting. At this point, it’s kind of hard to see how they could fail. Remember, those archons were, by themselves, enough to take over Gobwin Knob, and they’ve got them, plus Stanley’s dwagons, plus all of those ground troops, all under the same banner, and all with no upkeep, plus huge sums of wealth if it turns out they ever do need to pay for anything. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/148 "2009-06-26T16:56:11Z")
It seems unlikely that Charlie was committing all his forces to the battle for Gobwin Knob, and we have no idea what the fourth Arkentool is or who has it. Things could be interesting for a while. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/149 "2009-06-26T17:04:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If they do take over the world, it’ll be pretty darned _un_interesting. At this point, it’s kind of hard to see how they could fail. Remember, those archons were, by themselves, enough to take over Gobwin Knob, and they’ve got them, plus Stanley’s dwagons, plus all of those ground troops, all under the same banner, and all with no upkeep, plus huge sums of wealth if it turns out they ever do need to pay for anything. I think we’re going to see a little bit of it, then something will happen. Parson doesn’t want to kill people, Wanda is starting to look like she belongs in the giggling academy, Stanley is about to be handed the keys to more power than he’s ever known. Something is going to crack. Something I noticed. We don’t see a lot of skullduggery. If there world is purely turn based warfare, does that mean there’s no room for assassins, or thieves, or other stuff like that? We haven’t seen any yet, and this would be the perfect time for it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/150 "2009-06-30T11:09:03Z")
[Stanley, bearer of the cocunut](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/06/summer-updates-009/)… ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/151 "2009-06-30T11:46:30Z")
So here Stanley’s selection criteria for new warlords reasserts himself. When left to his own devices, he picks the best looking - and who’s better looking than Prince Handsome? Wanda’s warning got him to do something different once - when his back was to the wall. Now the pressure’s off he’s reverting to type. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/152 "2009-06-30T16:25:52Z")
I think Parson is okay with that because he wants some “me” time to test the limits of his new autonomy. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/153 "2009-06-30T18:21:54Z")
I think Parson is tired of the game, and wants out. There’s nothing in it for him anymore. He beat the unbeatable scenario. What’s he going to do after that? Any idiot can win with the forces they have now. He hates Stanley, is a bit afraid of Wanda, doesn’t know what to think about Ansom, and knows Sizemore doesn’t like him. Plus, he hates himself for killing all those people, and isn’t sure if he did it or he was being controlled. He’s not a happy person. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/154 "2009-06-30T20:28:15Z")
And it looks like he’s completely past the profanity filter now, too. The first time, it might have just been extreme emotion coming through, but there’s not all that much strong emotion in “beats the shit out of a coconut”. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/155 "2009-07-04T06:16:26Z")
[The scene shifts to Jillian and her Transylvito “escort”.](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/07/summer-updates-010/) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/156 "2009-07-04T14:53:18Z")
Anybody think Don King is going to start his own coalition, maybe with Jillian as chief Warlord? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/157 "2009-07-04T16:02:32Z")
I was thinking ‘puppet princess’, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/158 "2009-07-08T11:44:50Z")
[Nice city. Shame if something was to happen to it…](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/07/summer-updates-011/) ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/159 "2009-07-13T05:30:36Z")
[Groan…](http://www.erfworld.com/2009/07/summer-updates-013/) ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205/160 "2009-07-13T13:24:52Z")
It seems weird that Erfworld is updating more often than Order of the Stick, even though Erf’s updates are these short vignettes. … and I really should have expected that pun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/erfworld-general-discussion-spoilers/488205.md?page=9)