# Eric Holder kills it: You don't want to go there, buddy.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 16, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251 "2014-04-16T13:26:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/81 "2014-04-21T12:36:39Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> **adaher** is wrong. Alert the media.

It must be horrifying, this slow realization that he’s been comprehensively wrong, wrong on the facts, wrong on the morality, even wrong on the politics, and for all the wrong reasons, too. Gradually increasing panic and desperation are showing in his posts, with their still-increasing content of stuff he just made up and has to thrash about to try to rationalize when called upon it once again.

But we still do not yet see acceptance that reality is indeed real. That terror is still nascent. But it’s getting to be fun to watch. 😉

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/82 "2014-04-21T13:00:05Z")

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My question is, why does everyone here believe that Congress has a ‘Right’ to interfere with the operations of the Executive dept.? Okay, if they are trying to audit how their appropriations were spent, fine. If they are considering the appointment of someone by the President for which they have the yes/no vote, fine, again. But the day to day operation of the Justice department? Interference with the Justice Dept. can backfire.

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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/83 "2014-04-21T13:02:43Z")

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think Hoover’s files, if nothing else.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/84 "2014-04-21T16:27:41Z")

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Who gnu? Who knew that the American voter was such a nuanced thinker, to permit Obama to continue his presidency so long as he was hemmed in carefully by Republican representatives so that no needless mischief will arise! Ah, the Will of the People, the music swells, \*\*adaher \*\*dabs discreetly at his eyes as civic emotion overwhelms…

Unless we are pointing out the actual numbers of The People who voted for Dems. Then its time for spare and stern lectures on the workings of a Republic. Hey, them’s the rules, you don’t like the rules, start your own darned country!

And people say conservatives are inflexible! Hell, **addy** can bend over backwards and nip at this own heels without a bit of strain!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/85 "2014-04-21T16:36:00Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The “pox on both their houses” approach to politics is in my opinion intellectually lazy and not worth respect. The chances that both sides in a political debate would be equally reprehensible is vanishingly small.

I agree, this line of thought has always annoyed me. It’s so easy to say and SOUNDS like you’re being objective, which is why people say it, but it’s such an easy cover for laziness. THAT SAID, the vast majority of Congressmen from both parties are both beholden to Wall Street to get elected. And by ‘vast majority’ I mean all but about half a dozen. Until that changes, there will be no meaningful difference between the two parties on economic policy. Congressmen from both parties will do whatever their masters tell them to do.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/86 "2014-04-21T20:03:37Z")

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I think it’s more that they protect their own assets. Harry Reid doesn’t need the Koch Brothers to tell him that if he raises taxes, he’ll take major losses on the fortune he’s built up while in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/87 "2014-04-21T20:13:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I think it’s more that they protect their own assets. Harry Reid doesn’t need the Koch Brothers to tell him that if he raises taxes, he’ll take major losses on the fortune he’s built up while in the Senate.

Why do you use the phrase “the fortune he’s built up while in the Senate”? Do you think Mr. Reid has somehow used his office to enrich himself? Why do you think that?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/88 "2014-04-21T23:53:06Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/89 "2014-04-22T00:24:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Agreed. Gohmert did say in the clip, “We are known by our fruits”. Is asparagus a fruit?

Well, it’s long and stiff and has a tip . . .

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/90 "2014-04-22T00:25:32Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Obama’s sins have had a direct effect on people. The Republicans’ have not, being the opposition and all.

What, you think you can’t have a direct effect on people by obstructing? The government shutdown is all on the Pubs and it cost the country a lot of money and trouble.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/91 "2014-04-22T00:28:58Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Libertarians, Constitution Party, Reform Party, Conservative Party, Independence Party. The left parties are the two Green parties.

There are also several socialist parties that run candidates, still.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/92 "2014-04-22T00:30:29Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Why do you use the phrase “the fortune he’s built up while in the Senate”? Do you think Mr. Reid has somehow used his office to enrich himself? Why do you think that?

No one goes into the Senate for the money anyway; having money already (your own or a backer’s) is how you **qualify.**

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/93 "2014-04-22T00:34:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> There are also several socialist parties that run candidates, still.

I only asked for the top ten, and that’s as far down the list as he went. I thought I’d get **adaher** on the record about which were left and right before I did the math.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-kills-it-you-dont-want-to-go-there-buddy/686251/94 "2014-04-22T00:55:49Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> i think it’s more that they protect their own assets. Harry reid doesn’t need the koch brothers to tell him that if he raises taxes, he’ll take major losses on the fortune he’s built up while in the senate.

**ILLYWAA** ; I can’t believe how handy that acronym is going to be.

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