# Eric Holder Resigning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539 "2014-09-25T16:36:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/21 "2014-09-25T18:19:34Z")

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> [@Iggy](#):
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> I think he might be referring to the Justice Department’s widespread seizing of reporter’s telephone records?
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> [Cite from Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/associated-press-phone-records-spying-journalists)

Which was utterly wrong and unnecessary, and consistent with the administration’s overprosecution of whistleblowers and its hostility toward the press.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/22 "2014-09-25T18:35:23Z")

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Maybe now we can get an Attorney General who actually has some shred of respect for the law.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Eric.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/23 "2014-09-25T18:38:54Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Maybe now we can get an Attorney General who actually has some shred of respect for the law.

[What?](http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-holder-urges-changes-federal-sentencing-guidelines-reserve-harshest) [Sorry.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/marijuana-bank_n_4656145.html) [I couldn’t hear you](http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/09/25/rescheduling-marijuana-eric-holder/20261/) [over the sound of](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/06/25/231505/a-year-later-holder-civil-rights.html) [laws being disrespected](http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/holder-mandatory-minimums/).

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/24 "2014-09-25T19:00:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Cite?

[Here’s one](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/07/justice-department-sues-arizona-for-immigration-law/). although Holder did have a point; states can’t make their own immigration laws. At least not for people; California has no problem stopping people entering from Arizona / Nevada / Oregon and checking for illegal fruit or animals (for example, you cannot bring a ferret into California).

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/25 "2014-09-25T19:04:06Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> [Here’s one](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/07/justice-department-sues-arizona-for-immigration-law/). although Holder did have a point; states can’t make their own immigration laws. At least not for people; California has no problem stopping people entering from Arizona / Nevada / Oregon and checking for illegal fruit or animals (for example, you cannot bring a ferret into California).

And as I recall, the Supreme Court ultimately ruled in favor of the federal government on that case.

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**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/26 "2014-09-25T19:33:05Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> The government allows the sale of firearms to drug cartels, which later turn up in dozens of crime scenes including the killing of Americans, and you say “non-scandal?”

You’re talking about the Iran-Contra Affair which involved Reagan and the gang?

That was a bigger “non-scandal” for sure. Such a non-scandal that the gang was pardoned by Bush Sr. – only to come back as Bush Jr. puppetmasters and redirect our 9/11 outrage toward attacking the wrong set of Muslims.

–G!  
And there is a need to keep some things a secret  
The C.I.A. deals protecting the source  
And the government policies directly connecting  
the drugs and our wars  
…–Jackson Browne  
…_The Word Justice_  
…World In Motion

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/27 "2014-09-25T19:39:11Z")

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Then why is he resigning?

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/28 "2014-09-25T19:47:23Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Then why is he resigning?

My WAG is that he will now take a position at one of the law firms that supports one of the big banks. Or, wait, isn’ that where he came from?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/29 "2014-09-25T19:48:38Z")

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He was a historic figure.

The first US Attorney General to be held in both civil and criminal contempt. [Cite.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder)

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/30 "2014-09-25T19:55:14Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Then why is he resigning?

Probably 'cause he’s tired of it. This will leave only two original members of Obama’s cabinet. Especially in two-term presidents, there’s a lot of cabinet attrition.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/31 "2014-09-25T19:56:45Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Then why is he resigning?

It’s the presidents 6th year. The cabinet always clears out for a lame duck. It’s easier to get a lucrative private sector job as a sitting cabinet member than as a has been.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/32 "2014-09-25T19:58:01Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I thought he was pretty good. What’s the beef with Holder?

He’s black.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/33 "2014-09-25T19:58:23Z")

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**Shodan** : In both cases, per your own link, contempt of Congress for ridiculous partisan attacks by House Republicans related to the above-described Fast and Furious bogus Fox scandal. You \*might \*have mentioned that, but we all know why you didn’t.

If you had actually read it, you would have seen this:

> [@](#):
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> He was held in contempt by the House of Representatives in a 255–67 vote, with 17 Democrats voting for the measure, 2 Republicans voting against the measure. The remaining Democrats refused to vote and marched out of the House, led by Nancy Pelosi, as a means of protesting the actions of Republicans. Holder responded to the vote, describing it as “the regrettable culmination of what became a misguided and politically motivated investigation in an election year.”

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/34 "2014-09-25T20:15:41Z")

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So what are the Senate Republicans going to do _now_? They’ll have to act on confirming Obama’s new appointee, which they won’t want to do and will try to stop or delay; or have Holder stay in office (because he says he’s staying until a successor is approved by the Senate) LONGER, even though they hate him with the burning passion of ten thousand suns. Looks like they’re screwed either way, too me.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/35 "2014-09-25T20:57:08Z")

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I don’t know about this best or worst nonsense, but danged if he ain’t the handsomest devil to head our nation’s justice league.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/36 "2014-09-25T20:58:57Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Then why is he resigning?

Because he’s been on the job a long time, and if he doesn’t leave now he would probably have to stay until January 2017. He had already said he planned to leave soonish. Depending on when he actually goes he’ll wind up as the third- or fourth-longest-tenured AG in the history of the country.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/37 "2014-09-25T21:06:00Z")

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> [@lawoot](#):
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> So what are the Senate Republicans going to do _now_? They’ll have to act on confirming Obama’s new appointee, which they won’t want to do and will try to stop or delay; or have Holder stay in office (because he says he’s staying until a successor is approved by the Senate) LONGER, even though they hate him with the burning passion of ten thousand suns. Looks like they’re screwed either way, too me.

I predict he will do what a lot of lame duck presidents have done. Nominate someone relatively uncontroversial. Like one of the assistant AGs that have already been through the process and Senate have already confirmed for their current position.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/38 "2014-09-25T21:12:35Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Then why is he resigning?

He’s had a long run. Hell, GWB went through 6 (3 regular and 3 acting…one of which was Holder). Holder is the 2nd, following an acting AG who served for about 2 weeks, under Obama.

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**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/39 "2014-09-25T21:13:21Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I predict he will do what a lot of lame duck presidents have done. Nominate someone relatively uncontroversial. Like one of the assistant AGs that have already been through the process and Senate have already confirmed for their current position.

That would be the smart thing to do in light of this new, misguided war plan in Syria.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eric-holder-resigning/699539/40 "2014-09-25T22:32:41Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He’s black.

Don’t be _that_ guy.

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