# Eskimo pussy? Seriously?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142 "2008-11-17T16:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/141 "2008-11-19T22:10:19Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Sometimes women are only interested in men for sexual reasons.  
> Sometimes men are only interested in women for sexual reasons.  
> Sometimes they even make jokes with punchlines having to do with genitalia.

Sometimes all Chinese people \*do \*look alike.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/142 "2008-11-19T22:10:55Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Please, for the love of God, yes. There is seriously nothing to see here.

I’m just here for the pussy.

> [@Malacandra](#):
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> I was called a “wog” in one especially warm summer over here - true that I do go a little Mediterranean in strong sunlight, but I have four English grandparents (and no ancestors of any other colour AFAIK).

I’ve been called “North Atlantic Paki” (“nordatlantisk perker”) and many other things by the stupid Danes. Though not so much as I’ve called them. I don’t know what the hell “feel alienated” is, but everybody has been made fun of. Every last human being on Earth. So what.

> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Now, why we’re all getting up in the air over Eskimo pussy, and no-one (least of all **Cat Fight** ) is shedding any tears over a cruel taunt at the expense of “expendable” young males, I really couldn’t say. Any takers?

Or the way Finn made horrible fun of the poor Norwegians.

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> An Eskimø once bit my sister.  
> No realli! She was karving her initials on the Eskimø with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and  
> star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”…
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> Mynd you, Eskimø bites Kan be pretty nasti…

Help help. I’m being alienated!

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/143 "2008-11-20T16:41:45Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Well if that guy is gay maybe

So now gay guys can’t tell jokes about cocks, because they might be interested in them?

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> regardless it does objectify black men as large walking penises.

No, it doesn’t.

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> And can make black people feel alienated.

I guess all those black comedians sure are alienated. :rolleyes:

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> Taken the other way is it okay to joke that X-race has tiny penises?

yes.

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> Would members of X-race find that dehumanizing?

I’m quite sure most Asians don’t define their humanity by the size of their penis

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> :dubious: Last time I checked leprechauns weren’t in fact real.

I think you’re starting to get it

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> You can’t reduce what doesn’t exist.

Exactly, because it’s a _joke._ Get over it.

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> Uh I hate to be the one to ruin christmas but…

Stop the presses! I think you understand now!

> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Are you kidding? Hey, remember that scene in the British _Office_ where Andy’s telling that joke about the queen and the riddle with the punch line ‘a black man’s cock’ and a he stops when a black coworker joins in? Why do you think he hesitated? Because he figured the guy was overly sensitive? (As it turns out, the guy can ‘handle’ it and someone else registers a complaint, but even Andy Millman wasn’t enough of an asshole to ignore the fact that it may offend some people more than others).

I had never seen that clip before, but I just googled it. You just proved my point. The person who was “demeaned”, “objectified”, etc. thought the joke was funny. Some other busy body with a stick up their ass got offended. In the closed-door, the boss told the guy to save that type of thing for his free time, _which is what the Dope is_. Of course I wouldn’t walk through the halls at work singing about Eskimo pussy. But I have no problem talking about it on the Dope.

> [@](#):
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> Rather than Godwin’s Law, there should be some sort of Hear No Evil, See No Evil rule where, if someone has never been the target of racism or sexism, it must not exist for him or her or anyone else. And if people don’t actual believe in the literal truth of any of their sexist or racist slurs, they cannot possibly offend anyone.

Yes, because you know my ethnic background and my past. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/144 "2008-11-21T22:51:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Cat Fight** said:  
> Just as some, uh (lemme cover the bases here) First Nations/Native/Indigenous Americans call themselves Indians (albeit often with a dash of irony– hey, you think you found India? Sure. We’re Indian). But, call me crazy, the ‘pussy’ made me think the strength and beauty of North America’s Inuit women wasn’t being taken into account (even if it was from a movie).

Damn, aren’t you one hell of an offense kleptomaniac. Do you ever get tired of looking for ways to be offended?

It wasn’t a funny joke, but shit, you just made a speed bump into Mt. Everest.

> [@](#):
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> In retrospect, I probably should have simply written ‘black pussy.’ Or asked if Asian pussy tasted like rice. Or something equally as stupid. If women were never reduced to their genitals and racial minorities never got asked stupid, offensive questions regarding their looks (even as a joke), and if minority women didn’t get twice as much stereotypical crap, I’m sure I’d be less perturbed.

Are you as offended by the comparison of Asian cocks to nuprin as you are to any joke regarding pussy?

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> liberty3701\*\* said:  
> I thought Cat Fight was right on, and I think it’s total bullshit that she got a warning.

Are you kidding? **Cat Fight** is like a level 70 Offenderati.

She’s pissed off at a lame joke made about a 40 year-old cadence call that sings the virtues of native Alaskan female crotches.

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> What you don’t get is that just because people may not actually think women of a certain ethnicity have genitals of a certain temperature, talking about that shit, particularly in a jocular manner, diminishes women (and exoticizes people of color). It reduces them to holes that men can fuck. I know you don’t believe this because it’s a bit too complex for you to get your little brain around. It’s not just the glass ceiling and less money for the same job that oppress women. It’s being seen merely as objects for male pleasure.

So have you ever actually tried to earn you way in life based on your merits, or do you just park your ass on the sidelines and cry about the rules?

Life will go a lot smoother if you remove the boulder from your shoulder and get on with business. Honestly, if you interact with men based upon the opinion you’ve displayed of them here, I can’t fucking blame them for hating you. Just keep in mind that the fact that they can’t stand your whiny little offenderati ass does not mean they hate women in general. It means **you are too much a pain in the ass to deal with**.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/145 "2008-11-22T08:05:53Z")

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> [@liberty3701](#):
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> First of all, I’m a woman, and I have a pussy, I am not one.

You are definitely not a pussy. But you are an asshole.

> [@liberty3701](#):
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> What you don’t get is that just because people may not actually think women of a certain ethnicity have genitals of a certain temperature, talking about that shit, particularly in a jocular manner, diminishes women (and exoticizes people of color). It reduces them to holes that men can fuck. I know you don’t believe this because it’s a bit too complex for you to get your little brain around. It’s not just the glass ceiling and less money for the same job that oppress women. It’s being seen merely as objects for male pleasure. I don’t care if it’s from a movie (which I’ve seen, by the way), I don’t care if it’s meant to be funny, I don’t care that real army men have chanted it, I don’t care that the OP was a troll. I care that others responded in kind, and the one person who spoke out against it got warned, and I care that it took “nigger” for someone to actually do something about that thread. I get SHOCKED and DISMAYED when a board that’s supposed to be filled with smart, enlightened people pulls shit like this.

Good grief. What a shrew! Chill. People have been making stupid jokes about sex and bodily functions since language was invented. Men and women both. And both men and women spend a good portion of each day thinking about pussy and cock. The human condition is tragic and comic. Humans enjoy the comic part. Your kind of asshole shrewishness gives bigots and racists and sexists a good name by comparison. The idiot troll now looks like a joke gone bad in comparison to your nasty post. You come off looking like an asshole. Let’s face it, nobody gets out of here alive, any attempts at humor should be laughed at or at least forgiven.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/146 "2008-11-22T09:29:09Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Sometimes all Chinese people \*do \*look alike.

Well there’s a difference between treating all of a race/sex/ethnicity as fungible, and good natured ribbing for her pleasure.

Battle-of-the-sexes type [banter](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6095668&postcount=14) has been going on since, well, at least Ancient Greece (that I’m aware of). And I’d wager that just like now, there were probably some offenderati in ancient Greece who wanted to [bleed the life out of anything remotely funny.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6096547&postcount=21)

For what it’s worth, that [whole thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6097015&highlight=women#post6097015) is still worth a read, it’s one of the funnier things on the Dope. The [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=313726) that spawned it was only middlin’ funny, if I do say so myself… especially since men are often [not all that complex.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6102356&postcount=67)

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/147 "2008-11-22T13:09:48Z")

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The most fucking annoying thing about this thread is that more than one person here has implied that somehow the responses that were garnered from the original OP were reflective of the Dope as a whole. I didn’t fucking see the thread until now. And even if I had, and had chosen not to participate, it doesn’t make me a fucking racist apologist.

But since you dragged me and the rest of the whole goddamn board into it with your broad brush, I’ll tell you that I think you’re getting wound up over some stupid shit. The original Eskimo Pussy thread was so beyond ridiculous that it didn’t warrant being taken seriously or given any attention at all. Just because you don’t scream your head off every time someone says something idiotic doesn’t make you a racist or a sexist. Some of us have actual experiences of being oppressed and have found that our lives are a lot more satisfying when we stop bitching about how unfair everything is.

You think I find it absolutely wonderful every time some asshole comedian makes a joke about child abuse or makes fun of some crazy homeless guy? I personally do not find child abuse, mental illness or homelessness all that hilarious. But I have learned through trial and error that you don’t survive in this world without a sense of humor. Eventually your soft spots get poked enough that you grow some thicker skin. Take a fucking chill pill people. If you don’t, you are going to wear yourselves out, and when the real injustices come around you won’t have any energy left to fight them.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/148 "2008-11-22T22:57:54Z")

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Joining this party late …

I must admit that I am so out of it that I did not know the reference, did not initially think of “Eskimo” as offensive and participated in a silly off-hand way (linking to a picture of a hot looking arctic lynx - my small and stupid way to make fun of and belittle the op), read **catfight** ’s post and was initially whooshed and thought that it was out of line (but did not report) and then (microsecond later) still whooshed, recognized that maybe Eskimo was just as offensive and not silly, but then (it took 45 seconds maybe) learned enough to know that Eskimo is not offensive necessarily (as has been covered, in areas where there are more Natives than Inuits alone, Eskimo may be a more preferred term than inaccurately calling a non-Inuit indiviual Inuit) and by then the thread was locked.

So what have I learned?

Well that my initial non-offense at “Eskimo” was proper. It is not on par with “nigger” or “kike”.

And that some people here are really tightly wound. Wow.

I haven’t learned that I am out of it in though - I knew that already.  
BTW **Tao’s Revenge** , there is a difference between a slur and a statement of ignorance. If there are people who really believe that Actic Natives (Inuit, Yupik, whatever) have a lower body temperature and ask you about it, then they are probably not trying to slur or insult you. They just do not know. Educating them is a reasonable response. The original thread has nothing to do with that ignorance. It was an inappropriate stupid attempt at a joke thread that would have been worthy only of mockery anywhere, totally out of place in GD, but hardly up there even with “nappy headed hos.”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/149 "2008-11-23T22:52:35Z")

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Meh, I give up. Maybe I’ve been volunteering at the native women’s shelter too long. Maybe I need to watch more Kubrick. Or start reading the Imdb boards to acclimate myself to that sort of humor.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/150 "2008-11-23T23:02:55Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Meh, I give up. Maybe I’ve been volunteering at the native women’s shelter too long. Maybe I need to watch more Kubrick. Or start reading the Imdb boards to acclimate myself to that sort of humor.

Well, to be fair, one can never be _too_ compassionate. It just helps to maintain a sense of humor. Keep up the good work.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/151 "2008-11-23T23:21:08Z")

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Well **catfight** considering that the thread had been up for less than 50 minutes when you put up your post and that of those who responded most were mocking the op (well one alluded to the reference but that went over both _our_ heads), yeah your outrage at the lack of outrage seems a bit much, and your chosen method to express your point - that “Eskimo” was, you believed, derogatory and that “pussy” was objectifying - was less than optimal (as you have since realized).

You must also realize that it was pretty obvious that the op was trolling. Maybe I felt a silly mocking response was appropriate, but if I had felt it was clearly offensive my best response would _not_ have been to flame - and thereby feed the troll - my best response would have been the “report post” button and ignoring it. Many probably just did not feed the troll\* and figured the mods would be handling it shortly anyhow. To be outraged over that is misplaced I think, even if well intended.

\*Not feeding a troll is neither condoning or tolerating BTW.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/152 "2008-11-24T00:08:47Z")

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Yes, keep up the good work **catfight**

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/153 "2008-11-24T03:11:56Z")

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I think it’s odd that a person so easily offended would chose a demeaning term for an argument between women as a user name.

I guess it really is a matter of taste.

You may want to think about that **Cat Fight**

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**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/154 "2008-11-24T03:14:03Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> So have you ever actually tried to earn you way in life based on your merits, or do you just park your ass on the sidelines and cry about the rules?
> 
> Life will go a lot smoother if you remove the boulder from your shoulder and get on with business. Honestly, if you interact with men based upon the opinion you’ve displayed of them here, I can’t fucking blame them for hating you. Just keep in mind that the fact that they can’t stand your whiny little offenderati ass does not mean they hate women in general. It means **you are too much a pain in the ass to deal with**.

You shouldn’t be surprised to find out that everything you implied about **liberty3701** here is wrong.

People can in fact believe that sexism works in devious ways while simultaneously having normal intergender relationships.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/155 "2008-11-24T03:48:41Z")

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> [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](#):
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> You shouldn’t be surprised to find out that everything you implied about **liberty3701** here is wrong.
> 
> People can in fact believe that sexism works in devious ways while simultaneously having normal intergender relationships.

And you shouldn’t be surprised to find out that people can laugh at the absurd, scatological, and politically incorrect without being a bigot, and that they can laugh at a movie reference without being a redneck, a troll, or ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/156 "2008-11-24T05:38:07Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Are you kidding? Hey, remember that scene in the British _Office_ where Andy’s telling that joke about the queen and the riddle with the punch line ‘a black man’s cock’ and a he stops when a black coworker joins in? Why do you think he hesitated? Because he figured the guy was overly sensitive? (As it turns out, the guy can ‘handle’ it and someone else registers a complaint, but even Andy Millman wasn’t enough of an asshole to ignore the fact that it may offend some people more than others).

You’ve got your Ricky Gervais characters confused. His character on The Office was David Brent; Andy is his (much nicer) character on Extras.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/157 "2008-11-24T06:00:17Z")

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As an aside, this must be a very old marching cadence. It certainly pre-dates _Full Metal Jacket_. My dad used a cleaned-up version of it when I was a kid in the 70s:

I don’t know but I’ve been told  
Where the Eskimos live it gets mighty cold  
When the sun goes down

…and he got out of the military in 1939. I imagine he’d heard the nastier version while in the service and cleaned it up for the young 'uns.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/158 "2008-11-24T07:57:42Z")

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Okay, lesson learned: Don’t put something that might possibly be construed as a racial slur in an OP _and not put anydangfreaking else in the OP_.

What’s the damn _point_ other than trolling? You really expect to not catch any crap for this?

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

Oh, and Cat Fight? I don’t know what the hell you were thinking, but here’s some free advice: **Do not use that word you used (“the N-word”, for lack of a better term) ever, ever, ever again. Ever.** I hope that wasn’t too ambiguous. And no, we do not think better of you for trying to rationalize this after the fact.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/159 "2008-11-24T07:59:57Z")

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What would you do for a Klondike bar?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eskimo-pussy-seriously/473142/160 "2008-11-24T10:20:37Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Oh, and Cat Fight? I don’t know what the hell you were thinking, but here’s some free advice: **Do not use that word you used (“the N-word”, for lack of a better term) ever, ever, ever again. Ever.** I hope that wasn’t too ambiguous. And no, we do not think better of you for trying to rationalize this after the fact.

That is just silly. Words are just words, they do not have magical powers. I am with **Cat Fight** here. It was a perfectly good use in order to make a perfectly good point.

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