# ESPN is reporting no charges for FSU's Jameis Winston. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 5, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596 "2013-12-05T19:14:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/61 "2013-12-12T21:16:18Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’m sure there was some confusion that night, but I don’t think his teammates were covering up for him. And all these “sources” that said she knew Winston beforehand, and had a down-low relationship with him, and that there were pictures of them together, and that it was a lovers’ quarrel? Why do you suppose _someone_ felt it necessary to make up all those lies? ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/62 "2013-12-12T22:58:28Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The gold digger gets to remain anonymous while dragging Winston’s name through the mud. > [@dalej42](#): > > The accuser may not be a prostitute but she sure is an attention whore. Huh, and here I thought attention whores wouldn’t want to be anonymous. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/63 "2014-04-04T06:28:48Z")
Federal civil rights investigators have opened an investigation into whether FSU’s handling of the Jameis Winston rape allegations violated Title IX laws. [http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/04/4038046/report-federal-florida-state-univeristy.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/04/4038046/report-federal-florida-state-univeristy.html) Since it happened at an off-campus apartment I think it is entirely a police matter–not a university matter. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/64 "2014-04-05T02:41:33Z")
That article doesn’t even make it clear that she filed a complaint with the university about the alleged rape. Although, as you say, I’m not sure what they would have to do with anything, since it all took place off campus. At any rate, there really isn’t that much info in that article. If FSU did indeed err in how they handled this, I hope that corrective and/or punitive measures are taken as appropriate. Go 'Noles! ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/65 "2014-04-05T17:14:04Z")
Sounds like some intern at the justice department has an ax to grind. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/66 "2014-04-05T17:18:25Z")
Just to highlight this, two players who were at the party - the ones who said they witnessed the alleged assault - [have been charged with violations of FSU’s code of conduct](http://deadspin.com/fsu-investigates-jameis-winston-charges-2-teammates-in-1557216579). But yes, it’s the Justice Department civil rights inquiry that’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/67 "2014-04-16T15:11:36Z")
The New York Times just published an investigation of the case, and it completely vindicates **dalej42** ’s conclusions. Haha, I’m just kidding. [It’s horrible.](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jamies-winston.html?_r=0) > [@](#): > > [A]n examination by The New York Times has found that there was virtually no investigation at all, either by the police or the university. The police did not follow the obvious leads that would have quickly identified the suspect as well as witnesses, one of whom videotaped part of the sexual encounter. After the accuser identified Mr. Winston as her assailant, the police did not even attempt to interview him for nearly two weeks and never obtained his DNA. > > The detective handling the case waited two months to write his first report and then prematurely suspended his inquiry without informing the accuser. By the time the prosecutor got the case, important evidence had disappeared, including the video of the sexual act. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/68 "2014-09-24T22:19:47Z")
So the truth comes out, the accuser really is a gold digger. No shock at all, it’s always about the money. The accuser certainly needs to be named. This is hardly a rape case, it’s more of a infatuated female getting the sex she wanted, then getting all weird after her cleat chasing was completed. Now it’s all about the $$$ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/69 "2014-09-24T22:25:54Z")
[Of course if you read an article about the subject, you might feel **dale42** didn’t provide the full picture.](http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/09/24/florida-state-jameis-winston-extortion-letter) ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/70 "2014-09-24T22:59:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > [Of course if you read an article about the subject, you might feel **dale42** didn’t provide the full picture.](http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/09/24/florida-state-jameis-winston-extortion-letter) I would go so far as to call it a completely dishonest interpretation that accepts as gospel truth everything alleged by one party, and conveniently ignores everything said by the other. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/71 "2014-09-24T23:31:54Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I would go so far as to call it a completely dishonest interpretation that accepts as gospel truth everything alleged by one party, and conveniently ignores everything said by the other. And then there’s the obvious trap: if she didn’t sue, he’d say it’s because she is obviously a liar and as no case. If she does sue, she’s obviously just in it for the money. If you think this way, there is literally no way a woman can accuse an athlete of anything without being guilty of something. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/72 "2014-09-25T01:18:17Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > So the truth comes out, the accuser really is a gold digger. No shock at all, it’s always about the money. > > The accuser certainly needs to be named. This is hardly a rape case, it’s more of a infatuated female getting the sex she wanted, then getting all weird after her cleat chasing was completed. Now it’s all about the $$$ See a therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/73 "2014-09-25T01:29:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And then there’s the obvious trap: if she didn’t sue, he’d say it’s because she is obviously a liar and as no case. If she does sue, she’s obviously just in it for the money. If you think this way, there is literally no way a woman can accuse an athlete of anything without being guilty of something. Her crime, of course, is interfering with someone’s enjoyment of football by not letting an athlete do whatever he wants. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/74 "2014-09-25T02:38:58Z")
Not so fast, my friend! If she let him do whatever he wanted, she’d \*still \*be guilty of being a cleat-chaser. Sort of like a lesser included offense. Maybe this is what they mean by original sin. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/75 "2014-09-25T02:41:39Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Maybe this is what they mean by original sin. This kind of sexism is hardly original. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/76 "2014-09-25T15:07:18Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I would go so far as to call it a completely dishonest interpretation that accepts as gospel truth everything alleged by one party, and conveniently ignores everything said by the other. > [@Marley23](#): > > And then there’s the obvious trap: if she didn’t sue, he’d say it’s because she is obviously a liar and as no case. If she does sue, she’s obviously just in it for the money. If you think this way, there is literally no way a woman can accuse an athlete of anything without being guilty of something. And if she not only didn’t file charges, but married him and tried to secure a lenient punishment, guess what! > [@Ray Rice goes Tubthumping.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-rice-goes-tubthumping/689126/7): > > His ‘wife’ wants to get as much $$$ as she can off of his contract. No surprise. > [@Ray Rice goes Tubthumping.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ray-rice-goes-tubthumping/689126/75): > > I would call her a gold digger to her face. It’s quite obvious that they agreed to marry to make sure prosecution of Rice would be almost impossible. She has her hands on half his money now. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ray Rice went out and bought her Kobe Bryant style bling. Maybe I’ve misunderstood this whole thing and **dalej42** is an old-timey prospector. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/77 "2014-09-25T15:30:59Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > See a therapist. Isn’t that what this tread is about? Ohhhh _therapist_… nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/78 "2014-09-25T15:48:03Z")
Ha. It’s understandable, I type-a in a heavy Italian accent. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/79 "2014-09-25T15:56:49Z")
The NFL will love this self entitled bozo after he enters their league. Guaranteed he’ll do something stupid or even criminal and give the NFL another black eye within 4 years of going pro. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596/80 "2014-10-12T19:25:33Z")
Unfortunately, I have to agree with [this article](http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/10/11/jameis-winston-florida-state-disciplinary-hearing) and Winston should withdraw from FSU and leave college football to avoid the witch hunt. He’ll have to pay the blackmail from the accuser, but hopefully we can get her name out in public so she can be appropriately shamed as a liar. Winston can spend a few months working out with QB coaches and prepare for the draft. Hopefully he’s learned enough from his dumb missteps about shoplifting, quoting rap lyrics, and skanky lying women to have a successful NFL career. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/espn-is-reporting-no-charges-for-fsus-jameis-winston/675596.md?page=5)