# Esprix: Hypocrite, Asshole & also Gay **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2002, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443 "2002-12-04T15:13:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/141 "2002-12-04T22:07:59Z")
I promise I’m taking the comments in this thread seriously. Some background, and for your perusal, a few links to edify all about why I regard **Ace** as a jackass of the highest order: [ul][li][Wherein **Ace** rudely slams the South African HIV+ muppet](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2275856#post2275856).[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** decries the SDMB community as “just a message board” and downplays the hateful nature of anti-gay rhetoric therein](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2444502#post2444502).[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** calls out a homophobe, but manages to turn the thread into a shrill diatribe](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=134992).[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** slams **MrVisible** as a “sardonic, sarcastic, gay asshole.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2442855#post2442855)[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** makes the case that marriages must result in children](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127683&perpage=50&pagenumber=2).[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** … well, this one’s hard to explain](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=127649). (I think it was mocking **scottevil** , but no one’s really sure.)[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** directly insults me rather harshly](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2201228#post2201228).[/li] [li][Wherein **Ace** rails against gay adoptions and takes a swipe at the gay community as well](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2183703#post2183703).[/ul][/li] So that’s some background as to **Ace** ’s past behavior, and why he has little to no friends on this board. To his credit, he does come to the defense of those he sees as being ridden roughshod all over, although his choice of those he defends is debatable (such as the anti-gay rhetoric - cloaked in Christian goodness, of course - of some of our more religiously conservative posters). And I’m even willing to believe that he has some gay friends IRL, although I’d bet that if they saw some of the things he posts here, they might not want to be his friend anymore. And as to the comment I made, the intent was to tell you to go get fucked - it would do you a world of good. That’s it - no snide commentary on your sexual orientation, no veiled hopes you’d get raped, or whatnot (although I will reiterate I meant to insult your manhood, as I don’t see you as much of one). I don’t see a reason to retract that - particularly after reviewing all the assholish things you’ve said as quoted above. As I said, unwanted sexual advances are creepy and uncalled for, but the rest of the comment stands - I bet taking one up the ass would do you a world of good. It seems to work really well for the guys I fuck, so, hey - don’t knock it 'til you’ve tried it, bub. And for those who think the “go eat some pussy” comment would offend me, it wouldn’t. Besides, how do any of you know I haven’t already tried it? Revel in the mystery, mates - gotta keep 'em guessing. I will, however, make an abject apology to anyone other than **Ace** who took offense to what I said - my intent was to insult him, not you. I am sincerely sorry for that and hope you better understand where I’m coming from in this one instance. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/142 "2002-12-04T22:15:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > > > [@](#): > > > > I wholly recommend a hard dick in the ass for everyone. I’m very non-discriminatory about that. > > > > Esprix > > \*\*As long as I get to choose whose dick it is, I’m fine with this. \*\* Hi Opal! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/143 "2002-12-04T22:16:53Z")
Wow, people sure are getting heated in this thread. I propose we all take a good stiff dick in our asses and get a good nights sleep. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/144 "2002-12-04T22:19:13Z")
Capital post, **Esprix**. Where do I sign up, **Weirddave**? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/145 "2002-12-04T22:21:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > \*\*Wow, people sure are getting heated in this thread. I propose we all take a good stiff dick in our asses and get a good nights sleep. 😃 \*\* Do I haveta? \< sigh \> If I must. To paraphrase a wise woman: As long as I get to choose whose dick it is. Now who was it that had the “My Tiny Dick is Powerful” post? 😃 Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/146 "2002-12-04T22:22:55Z")
_sets up a table and two signup forms_ Ok… bottoms to the left, tops to the right… After you’ve signed up, grab some condoms and lube packets from the fishbowl. Oh… and my dance card is in the middle. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/147 "2002-12-04T22:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Now who was it that had the “My Tiny Dick is Powerful” post? Wasn’t it **Scylla**? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/148 "2002-12-04T22:28:16Z")
Not that there’s anything wrong with it… …but I think this is one time I’m glad I haven’t been getting any ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/149 "2002-12-04T22:29:07Z")
Ooo, a few more links provided in the original thread by **Homebrew** : [ul][li][Ace on gays, HIV and safe sex](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2183633#post2183633).[/li] [li][Ace on lisps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2163813#post2163813).[/ul][/li] Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/150 "2002-12-04T22:29:27Z")
:eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Deal’s off. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/151 "2002-12-04T22:36:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\* but the rest of the comment stands - I bet taking one up the ass would do you a world of good. It seems to work really well for the guys I fuck, so, hey - don’t knock it 'til you’ve tried it, bub. > > I will, however, make an abject apology to anyone other than **Ace** who took offense to what I said - my intent was to insult him, not you. I am sincerely sorry for that and hope you better understand where I’m coming from in this one instance. > > Esprix \*\* No apology that includes the phrase “taking one up the ass would do you a world of good” is going to do it. You don’t seem to understand that a lot of people view this phrase as extremely offensive, no matter to whom it is directed. As **gobear** noted, it would be like saying “Go count some money, ya Jew! I hope nobody else is offended by that!” And if the phrase is de facto offensive, then it doesn’t matter if the person to whom it is directed has said disagreeable things in the past. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/152 "2002-12-04T22:46:22Z")
> [@](#): > > **Esprix** : …go get fucked - it would do you a world of good… > [@](#): > > \*\*ME! \*\*:Esprix was just saying, ‘Fuck you,’ from his own perspective. I bask in rightness. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/153 "2002-12-04T22:47:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*Do I haveta? > > \< sigh \> If I must. > > To paraphrase a wise woman: > > As long as I get to choose whose dick it is. > > Now who was it that had the “My Tiny Dick is Powerful” post? > > 😃 > > Fenris \*\* Yeah, that was me. Allright bend over, unless of course you’re a homophobe. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/154 "2002-12-04T22:51:39Z")
**Ace** has said that he is a heterosexual. If you’re telling him to take one in the ass, you’re saying something completely inappropriate on several levels. It amazes me that you don’t see this. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/155 "2002-12-04T22:53:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > I’m stepping away from the computer for a long bit now. But I did want to say thanks to the people who understood where I was coming from. I’ll probably miss a few but: > > Thanks to: BBJ, Blessed Wolf, Mauvaise, Cauahtemoc, Jodi, Laur\_Ange, Zut, RickJay, Blackknight, **Trion** , and Truth Seeker. I’d just like to be clear here Ace. The only reason I haven’t taken you to task in this thread is because, frankly, it would be a waste of my time. When I disagree with Esprix I can at least be sure he’ll listen to what I have to say. I doubt very much the same could be said for you. Calling you an ignoramus would get me nowhere. Besides, others have said it far better than I ever could. And they’re right too. > [@](#): > > Also, to those who sent good wishes via e-mail (y’know who ya are), thanks so much, I feel truly blessed. Y’all folks are great, thank you so much. This nimrod gets good wishes via e-mail? Fucking brilliant. I guess I know where I rate around here. Note to self: Must be more of an asshat. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/156 "2002-12-04T22:59:09Z")
**autz** , the point of an insult is to insult someone who has acted in a reprehensible manner towards you (at least it was in this case). I intended to tell **Ace** to go get fucked. I’m sorry others found such extreme offense in that. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/157 "2002-12-04T23:01:39Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **leander** _ > > **Ace** has said that he is a heterosexual. If you’re telling him to take one in the ass, you’re saying something completely inappropriate on several levels. > > It amazes me that you don’t see this. Why? Straight men take it in the ass all the time. So do women. So do lesbians. So do gay men. I wasn’t attacking his sexual orientation, I was attacking his bullshit attitude that I’ve already provided several links to. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![RedDevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ec8ea/32.png) [@RedDevil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedDevil)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/158 "2002-12-04T23:18:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Shiksa doesn’t have as nasty a connotation as _koorvah_, though. > > “_Oy_, **Fenris** , why can’t you bring home a nice Jewish girl instead of dating that _shiksa_” is not good, but “I can’t believe you brought that _koorvah_ into our house!” is much worse. \*\* My mum uses the word “kurva” which means a whore. Is it the same meaning? Great word, I might use it tomorrow when I say hello to my elderly neighbour, “Hello, Mrs C, you _kurva_.” * * * And do I take it up the arse? _looks at watch_ Oh go on then, I’ve got five minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/159 "2002-12-04T23:30:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Why? Straight men take it in the ass all the time. So do women. So do lesbians. So do gay men. I wasn’t attacking his sexual orientation, I was attacking his bullshit attitude that I’ve already provided several links to. > > Esprix \*\* > [@](#): > > \*\*I still say a stiff dick up his ass would do him a world of good. \*\* **Esprix** , you seem to be having a bad neuron day. Straight men and Lesbians take a stiff dick up the ass all the time? I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask you for a cite. **Esprix** , I think **gobear** has pretty much summed up the problem. Rather than use your normal rapier-like wit to cleanly disembowel your victim, you have become the rhetorical equivalent of a suicide bomber. While you make have taken out your target, you’ve also done immense damage to yourself and to many innocent bystanders. Some kinds of insults just aren’t appropriate, no matter how “effective” they may be. BTW, I pretty much agree with **Trion’s** last post. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/160 "2002-12-04T23:31:32Z")
Personally I also think **Ace** would benefit from a stiff cock in the ass, but only because he’d have to pull the huge stick he’s already got up it out first. A bit of advice for you **Ace** , loosen up a bit. There’s this wonderful world out there and every color, including lots of shades of grey, exist out there. Enjoy, Steven [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443.md?page=9)