# Esprix: Hypocrite, Asshole & also Gay **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2002, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443 "2002-12-04T15:13:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/161 "2002-12-04T23:43:15Z")
Could some bottoms of any stripe chime in here and give **Ace** some pointers on how to get fucked? Hell, let’s even fill him in (to coin a phrase) on how good it feels, and how much less stressful he’ll feel afterwards. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/162 "2002-12-04T23:44:22Z")
**matt\_mcl**? **OpalCat**? **Hastur**? **iampunha**? Being a top, it’s not my style… 😉 Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/163 "2002-12-04T23:49:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Could some bottoms of any stripe chime in here and give Ace some pointers on how to get fucked? Hell, let’s even fill him in (to coin a phrase) on how good it feels, and how much less stressful he’ll feel afterwards. I’m sure it’s possible you could be more offensive, but frankly I’m drawing a blank as to how. I am really, really trying to maintain my respect for you here, and it would help me out enormously if you’d just stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/164 "2002-12-04T23:52:46Z")
OK, look, I’ve been a bottom - once. So I’ve taken one up the ass. I know how it feels. Additionally, I’ve fucked many a guy up the ass. So, obviously, I don’t find the idea at all repugnant. **Ace** has spoken quite clearly on his views of homosexuals and homosexuality in general (as provided by the links I posted earlier), and by virtue of his OP in the thread that started all this, the thought of anal intercourse is repugnant to him. So why is it wrong to wish something on someone that they find repugnant (and remember I at no time advocated he get raped by anyone) when they’ve gone out of their way to be repugnant to me? Again, isn’t an insult intended to insult? I would also proffer that most, if not all gay men (and for that matter, most if not all sexually liberally-minded people in general) would not take the idea of getting fucked up the ass to be repugnant. Certainly some do on a personal level, but in general, I don’t see many gay anti-butt-fucking activists protesting at gay pride parades. So, to reiterate - **Ace** , get fucked. If it would have been simpler and less offensive to others for me to say “get fucked” as opposed to relating a “get fucked”-esque comment to the OP of the thread (i.e., “get fucked by the guy that wanted to fuck you” [or vice versa, as the case may be]), then consider the latter to be the insult, and I’ll retract the former. I see everyone’s point, I just personally don’t agree that there’s a difference of a timbre to insult the entire community that I love so much. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/165 "2002-12-04T23:55:17Z")
Oh, and comparatively speaking, I will say that getting fucked made me a better man (and certainly a better top, having learned what it feels like to be on the receiving end). I will also say that **Ace** ’s attitudes make him less of a man, at least to me. (Man, this is WAY too much information I EVER wanted to reveal on these boards.) Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/166 "2002-12-04T23:57:04Z")
**Esprix** This thread is starting to smell like a meltdown. You’re turning Ace into the victim here and that just ain’t right on so many levels. Stop digging. If you really don’t see anything wrong with your comments, at the very least, please just let it go and walk away. If you don’t, this I forsee this developing into something really, really painful and ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/167 "2002-12-04T23:58:27Z")
Then don’t. Shut your yap. Your comments are bizarre, out of character, and frankly are doing you a disservice. ---
**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/168 "2002-12-04T23:59:59Z")
**Esprix** , it strikes me that you’re digging a bit of a hole for yourself here and it’s really not looking good. I suggest you stop digging, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/169 "2002-12-05T00:05:07Z")
OK, I’ll shut up now. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/170 "2002-12-05T00:06:15Z")
And I’ll retract the insult to boot. **Ace** , and others, I apologize for my “taking it up the ass” comment. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/171 "2002-12-05T01:10:49Z")
You know it’s been a worthwhile thread if everyone’s satisfied in the end. ::d&r:: ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/172 "2002-12-05T01:39:47Z")
Dammit! I waded through four pages of this, and I don’t even get to bitch at the end?! What a gyp! Fuck this happy-ending shit! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/173 "2002-12-05T01:54:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Being a top, … Esprix \*\* I guess this means that, even though you _do_ seem to be finished here, you’re not going to grab your socks and let me drive you home, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/174 "2002-12-05T02:00:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*And I’ll retract the insult to boot. **Ace** , and others, I apologize for my “taking it up the ass” comment. > > Esprix \*\* Screw that. Who cares about that I’m angry that you didn’t have the common decency, refused to show the basic courtesy that a man in your position owes a man like Ace. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/175 "2002-12-05T02:12:06Z")
ESPRIX – > [@](#): > > You’re the top! > You’re the Colosseum. > You’re the top! > You’re the Louvre Museum. > You’re a melody from a symphony by Strauss > You’re a Bendel bonnet, > A Shakespeare’s sonnet, > You’re Mickey Mouse. > You’re the Nile, > You’re the Tower of Pisa, > You’re the smile on the Mona Lisa > I’m a worthless check, a total wreck, a flop, > But if, baby, I’m the bottom you’re the top! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/176 "2002-12-05T02:38:44Z")
> [@](#): > > This nimrod gets good wishes via e-mail? Fucking brilliant. I guess I know where I rate around here. > > Note to self: Must be more of an asshat. There’s really no proof he got any emails, **Trion**. It’s that whole giant ‘silent majority’ thing rearing its ugly head again. And, **Esprix** , I think where you started to go wrong is when you constantly repeated the ‘takin’ it up the ass’ mantra. Many posters have expressed their discomfort with the phrase and there you are, hammering it home… …damn, it is really hard to say anything in this thread that won’t have a double meaning… … **difficult**!! I mean its really **difficult** to say anything in this thread… Oh, hell. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/177 "2002-12-05T02:41:17Z")
Huh. I guess it says something that I understood every word **'Sprix** wrote, and _still_ can’t see anything resembling a hole dug anywhere, nor an imminent meltdown. What it says, I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/178 "2002-12-05T02:42:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrMyth \* > \*\*…damn, it is really hard to say anything in this thread that won’t have a double meaning… > \*\* Don’t worry, buddy – I got your back. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/179 "2002-12-05T02:56:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrMyth \* > \*\*There’s really no proof he got any emails, **Trion**. It’s that whole giant ‘silent majority’ thing rearing its ugly head again. > > \*\* True. But I can’t help feeling that there may just be a bunch of people who think like **Ace** and are too cowardly to post their opinions on this board - and therefore would offer him support via e-mail. But who knows. I’ve had a rough day and I’m feeling cynical about the human race. However, before I go to bed, I’d like to offer up a good old-fashioned “You owe me a new keyboard” to **DanielWithrow**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ouisey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9fc29f/32.png) [@ouisey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouisey)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443/180 "2002-12-05T03:03:32Z")
My God… I remember how this was an itty bitty thread this morning. Now look at it…four pages long! I knew when I saw the personal insult to Esprix that it would be a well-visited thread. Its like we’re back in school, and there’s a fight behind the gym. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-hypocrite-asshole-also-gay/140443.md?page=10)