# Esprix the Newbie?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 25, 2001, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649 "2001-10-25T21:43:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/61 "2001-10-26T10:38:22Z")

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My! My! A most surprising turn of events.

Welcome aborad **thegrimspectreofdeath**!

Posting in the pit has never been so …well…warm, pink & fuzzy.

Although have we yet to determine the identity of  
**SpankyMalone** who could not possibly have forseen  
the gracious attitude of **thegrimspectreofdeath**?  
Post Preview:  
“The gracious attitude of the grim spectre of death ?”  
Does that strike anyone else as amusing or are these meds _finally_ beginning to work ?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/62 "2001-10-26T12:55:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by musicguy \*  
> \*\*Man, I’ve never even been to another message board other than when trying to find technical information. I came here because I always loved the books and enjoyed the outtakes copied from this board. Then I took the plunge and posted, gave a rant so ignorant that I am utterly embarrased to re-read it. And then the flames came and they came HARD. They were so fucking intellectual that I realized very quickly that I was way out of my element. **Guin** posted a reply to the effect of “Anyone want to place bets on how long this guy lasts?”  
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What thread was that?  
😕

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/63 "2001-10-26T15:00:16Z")

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One more thing, **Grimmy** : With your username being waht it is, expect tons of funny, not-so-funny, and just flat-out dumb (such as the one I just used) variations on your name. I think it’s pretty damn good one, but it’s so bleedin’ long that it’s _bound_ to attract some “attention”.

All-in-all, a very auspicious start.

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**Author:** ![musicguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@musicguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/musicguy)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/64 "2001-10-26T16:02:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*  
> What thread was that?  
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Well, I hesitate to say because I was really a jerk there but it was in the pit, called “hypocrisy in stem cell research”. You also called me a pea-brained moron. But I really deserved it.

Feel free NOT to go there and re-read. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/65 "2001-10-26T16:24:37Z")

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**thegrimspectreofreddeath** :

I like your style. Don’t sweat some of the whiny word nazi bitches that hang out here. A few people here are seriously lacking in the sense of humor department. Don’t let that stop ya. The majority is way cool over here, and I’ve met alot of really good people.

I partake on some music message boards, and I like the style that includes fat jokes, mama jokes, gay jokes, ethnic jokes. Shit’s funny. Laughing is good. And I actually have the skill to laugh at something simply because it is funny, without adopting it as my moral philosophy (i.e. I don’t hate fat people, gay people, or even your mama). But a couple bastards around here come down on you for using language differently then reccomended by the dictionary. Then they haul out there book of PC. Fuck 'em. Can’t take jokes. Language is fun. Sometimes I like to talk in a sensible intelectual fashion, and other times, I just wanna bust out my street corner lingo, breaking grammar rules and social taboos at the same time. What fun.

The best part of this board for me, is the deep conversation on big issues (War, Religion, Science). Fun stuff that you can’t find everywhere. Oh, the other best part is the sex. Some real nice tips on Oral Sex if you wanna use the search feature in MPSIMS (and maybe General Questions). Enjoy.

Welcome.

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/66 "2001-10-26T16:58:04Z")

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Yo, **dj**!

You’ve had your head handed to you a couple of times over language & usage. You _really_ want to get that started again? Gratutitous “Bastard” calling will surely get another one rolling. “Language Nazi” will put you back in the sights again, too. Whether or not _you_ like derogatory jokes is beside the point. Use 'em around here, and be prepared to be called to task.

Pretty good advice, otherwise, especially about the “search” function and some of the fun subjects you can find with it…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/67 "2001-10-26T17:24:00Z")

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Yes by all means, stay. And whenever you have a disagreement with someone be sure to call there mother a Vietnamese prostitute. You’ll be president of The Clique in no time.

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**Author:** ![saepiroth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@saepiroth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saepiroth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/68 "2001-10-26T17:50:16Z")

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come on, don’t hold grudges.  
group hug!

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**Author:** ![saepiroth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@saepiroth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saepiroth)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/69 "2001-10-26T17:55:23Z")

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he’s not “ **the grim spectre of death** ”

he’s “ **the grim spectre of RED death** ”

it’s even nicer that way.

yay! i’m the first to notice…

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/70 "2001-10-26T17:56:13Z")

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**Tranquilis** :

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> You’ve had your head handed to you a couple of times over language & usage.

I disagreee. I’ve gotten people riled up, but no one ever came up with anything reasonable on the subject other than “it hurts my feelings”. So I try to be nice and not hurt these overly sensitive cats feelings by abstaining from certain words or jokes. I still think the thought process that allows you to let these things hurt your feelings is foolish. I’ve never seen any convincing argument that the writers intent is unimportant (as some folks here seem to believe).

My head remains firmly unhanded. Just ducked down a little to spare those whom I may wish to speak with concerning other subjects.

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> You really want to get that started again?

Why not. It’s been a while. Whatchagot?

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> Gratutitous “Bastard” calling will surely get another one rolling.

I said a FEW bastards. Hardly Gratuitous. If I had said “on this board full of bastards” that may have been too much. But their are definately some bastards roamin’ around.

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> “Language Nazi” will put you back in the sights again, too.

I said WORD nazi. Like a person who locks in a single definition of a word even after the writer has stated a meaning other than the one referenced by opposing poster.

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> Whether or not you like derogatory jokes is beside the point. Use 'em around here, and be prepared to be called to task.

True. So I don’t use those jokes here. But I retain the right to point out how in some cases (where the intent is not hate, but humour), this attitude is overly uptight and foolish.

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> Pretty good advice, otherwise, especially about the “search” function and some of the fun subjects you can find with it…

Yeah. This place really does have a ton to offer. Too bad the search function has been sick lately. ☹

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/71 "2001-10-26T18:10:35Z")

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Not me, personally, just word to the wise, you know?

Yeah, you did say “Word”. My bad, but the point stands.

Concur on the search function. \<:mad:\>

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**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/72 "2001-10-26T19:13:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by saepiroth \*  
> \*\*he’s not “ **the grim spectre of death** ”
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> he’s “ **the grim spectre of RED death** ”
> 
> it’s even nicer that way.
> 
> yay! i’m the first to notice… \*\*

Boy is my face red! I had read it as **The Grim Spectre of Fred Death**! I was wondering who Fred Death was! 😃

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/73 "2001-10-26T19:30:03Z")

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**dalovin** , you still whining? The rest of us got over it - maybe you should, too.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/74 "2001-10-26T19:44:41Z")

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> dalovin, you still whining?

Nope. I’m welcoming a new poster who may run into some of the same uptight attitudes I’ve run into, and offering him a little advice and empathy in the hopes that he’ll just let words like yours roll off his back and come to enjoy this place and those folks who ARE cool. Then I discussed said advice briefly when querried by **Tranquilis** ever so politely.

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> The rest of us got over it - maybe you should, too.

Got over what? I still think the attitudes I refer to are foolish. It’s not a big worry, but when the subject comes up, I’m not going to not post about it if I find it to be an interesting subject and a poster has come in with a fresh perspective on this old (to me) topic.

Dalovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/75 "2001-10-26T20:01:55Z")

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Dalovindj

I think you just confirmed for me that you truly are a prize wanker. You’ve joined a community where racial slurs, fat jokes, mama jokes and gay jokes generally are not welcome or accepted. So what do you do in your supreme wisdom?

Invite a newbie to make those sorts of jokes because you personally find them amusing. Way to go.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/76 "2001-10-26T20:14:04Z")

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**Primaflora** :

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> I think you just confirmed for me that you truly are a prize wanker.

I never wank my (or anyone elses) prizes. Come on, you gotta be more creative when insulting people.

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> You’ve joined a community where racial slurs, fat jokes, mama jokes and gay jokes generally are not welcome or accepted. So what do you do in your supreme wisdom? Invite a newbie to make those sorts of jokes because you personally find them amusing. Way to go.

No, I never invited him to post those things. I just related that, depending on the intent, I don’t find those things offensive and don’t sweat those who do. I in no way said “Got any gay jokes”? I in no way told him what he should or should not post. I just gave him my opinion on his posting style as seen partly here, and mostly on the other board.

Dalovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/77 "2001-10-26T21:07:14Z")

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Any chance we could wait until **dalovindj** actually starts making offensive and derogatory jokes before we yell at him for it? Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/78 "2001-10-26T21:15:46Z")

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It’s OK, Miller in a fit of pique, the dear boy has gone and started a Yo Mama thread.

It’s ever so witty and clever :rolleyes:

I’m hoping for the racist thread and the gay joke thread any minute now, because this board needs an injection of wit and charm. Can’t have the PC language nazis ruling the joint when there are people who are amused by such mature and clever jokes.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/79 "2001-10-26T21:29:04Z")

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> It’s OK, Miller in a fit of pique, the dear boy has gone and started a Yo Mama thread.

Indeed I have. . .

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> You’ve joined a community where racial slurs, fat jokes, **mama jokes** and gay jokes generally are not welcome or accepted.

Well, it looks like you’re wrong about mama jokes, as some fine members of the community have stepped up to the plate ever so skillfully. And surprisingly, I actually am able to realize they aren’t insulting my mother, and take the jokes as lighthearted plays on words. I’m such an awful person. :rolleyes:

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> Can’t have the PC language nazis ruling the joint when there are people who are amused by such mature and clever jokes.

Who said they rule the boards. They don’t even come close. _ **Most** _ of the people on this board actually seem to have a sense of humour. Even if a couple cats still need to look into getting one.

Nah, the word nazis are definately in the minority, but they are usually the first and loudest to jump into threads bashing newbies.

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-the-newbie/89649/80 "2001-10-26T21:48:02Z")

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How exactly does one go from “what you say offends me” to “Word Nazi?”

Oh, I know - the belligerence of the one making the slur.

You’re free[sup]\*[/sup] to say as you wish, **dj** , but now that people have told you that certain things you say offend them, by continuing to say them it speaks volumes for the kind of person you are. The choice, as it has always been, is entirely yours.

Esprix

[sub]\*In general; we all know there are limits, however, of what you can say here at the SDMB.[/sub]

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