# Esprix, tilting at strawmen again **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 25, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155 "2003-11-25T08:03:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/61 "2003-11-27T03:39:51Z")
Ooh! Now I’m a stalker _and_ a troll! You, sir, are a cad! A low-life ruffian! I am affronted! Affronted, I say! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/62 "2003-11-27T03:41:33Z")
guess that makes you a _stroller_ . Affronted? Now your a front? I thought you were a top? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/63 "2003-11-27T06:25:04Z")
You know, I would think if **Esprix** WAS going to stalk someone on the SDMB, it would definitely NOT be **The Ryan**. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/64 "2003-11-27T06:54:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > Actually, I’ve enver caught any of your posts, Ryan, but what are you really trying to say here? I really don’t understand what’s so hard to understand about “Esprix misrepresented my position”. Esprix has implied that I’ve said that bisexuality and pedophilia are the same. I’ve never said that. Esprix refused to clarify his statement, provide any support, or retract his statements. What, exactly, is unclear about that? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/65 "2003-11-27T12:48:06Z")
Fucking hell. I read through this whole thread, _and_ through **The Ryan** ’s posts (or are they “posts”? ;)) in the other thread. I think it’s time for our monthly “The Ryan” staff “discussion”. Is it my turn to “bring” the “cookies” this time 'round? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/66 "2003-11-27T13:17:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > **Hamlet, echoing the post of Guinastasia in the original thread, responds to the statement that I have been falsely accused of equating homosexuality/bisexuality with pedophilia by discussing a completely different issue. I suspect that, like her, he will not respond to the questions I asked: ”Are you saying that because I am missing some important subtlety, it is appropriate to misrepresent my position? Or are you saying that as a consequence of the subtlety which I am missing, I am in fact saying that “gay” and “pedophile” are synonyms?”** Actually, I attempted to aid in the discussion by trying to bridge the gap between what I believed was a misunderstanding between you and **Esprix** about the terms you were throwing around. Sorry for trying to aid in the discussion. And I will answer your question that it is not appropriate for **Esprix** to knowingly misrepresent your position, however, I don’t think he did. His interpretation, based on what appeared to be your mistaken assumption that there are such things as homosexual pedophiles, was one that could have been made, and rather than attempt to form a cogent, well-reasoned explanation, you preferred to go straight to defensive, incoherent ranting. It is, of course, your perogative, but, as you can surely tell, it doesn’t make you many friends. Or admirers. Or even acquaintences who can tolerate you. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/67 "2003-11-27T15:19:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*I read through this whole thread, _and_ through **The Ryan** ’s posts (or are they “posts”? ;)) in the other thread. > > I think it’s time for our monthly “The Ryan” staff “discussion”. > > Is it my turn to “bring” the “cookies” this time 'round? \*\* Damn, **Coldfire** , that cracked me up! ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/68 "2003-11-27T15:28:41Z")
Yeah. We’re going to discuss his posting “privileges”, which are not the same as his “posting” privileges, if you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/69 "2003-11-27T15:44:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*You know, I would think if **Esprix** WAS going to stalk someone on the SDMB, it would definitely NOT be **The Ryan**. \*\* It would be me. I know this because he follows me around, screaming “OOOOOOOooOOOkies!”. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/70 "2003-11-27T15:44:55Z")
I think I’ve been “misrepresented.” Not that I said anything, but I am being “preemptive.” ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/71 "2003-11-27T15:55:55Z")
Actually, what I meant to say was, Damn, **Coldfire** , that “cracked” me “up”! ---
**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/72 "2003-11-27T16:35:51Z")
**The Ryan** “called” my post “weaseling.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/73 "2003-11-27T18:34:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > \*\*I really don’t "understand "what’s so hard to understand about “Esprix misrepresented my position”. > Esprix has "implied "that I’ve said that bisexuality and pedophilia are the same. > I’ve never "said "that. > Esprix refused to “clarify” his statement, “provide” any support, or “retract” his “statements”. > “What”, exactly, "is "unclear “about” that? \*\* hee hee" hee" (dont hurt me, mods) ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/74 "2003-11-27T19:06:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > \*\*hee hee" hee" > > (dont hurt me, mods) \*\* I take it you mean “hurt” you? See, you need to “clarify” your “statement” as not to be “unclear.” ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/75 "2003-11-27T19:19:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RedFury \* > \*\*I take it you mean “hurt” you? See, you need to “clarify” your “statement” as not to be “unclear.” \*\* “What” “I” really wanted to “know” was why “everyone” is “using” “quotations”. Is this “something” the “Ryan” does “often”? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/76 "2003-11-27T19:23:34Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **GingerOfTheNorth** _ > > It would be me. I know this because he follows me around, screaming “OOOOOOOooOOOkies!”. That is a scurrilous… er, truth? 😃 Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/77 "2003-11-27T19:42:19Z")
No, **Esprix** , it’s “truth”. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/78 "2003-11-28T02:03:34Z")
Is “this” thread “over”? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/79 "2003-11-28T02:05:45Z")
My pit thread is longer than Esprix’s. Neener neener neener. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155/80 "2003-11-28T02:07:44Z")
yes, only your pit thread is longer…😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/esprix-tilting-at-strawmen-again/215155.md?page=5)