# Establishment Democrats Vs. Progressives

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 29, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619 "2021-07-29T23:44:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/21 "2021-07-30T17:16:19Z")

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Do you blame him for Trump?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/22 "2021-07-30T17:32:52Z")

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Yes, obviously Bernie’s brats threw a temper tantrum and stayed home, voted 3rd party, or even voted for Trump to bring the revolution

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/23 "2021-07-30T17:38:18Z")

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Okay. Do you blame Hillary for Trump at all?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/24 "2021-07-30T17:54:28Z")

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Hillary definitely should have quit handling Bernie with kid gloves and gone negative on him; there’s plenty of dirt from Bernie’s horrible adult past

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/25 "2021-07-30T17:58:48Z")

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Ok. Like what? Many thought Bernie was wearing “kid gloves”.

So you really liked Hillary and you think the only thing she had contributed to Trump was not going after Bernie enough?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/26 "2021-07-30T18:02:40Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Ok. Like what?

Let’s start here:

[https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927)

No job until 40, stealing electricity, ignoring his son

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/establishment-democrats-vs-progressives/947619/27 "2021-07-30T18:09:29Z")

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Hmmm… I haven’t heard of this. I can’t read it right away. Will read later, and check to see if there’s any rebuttal to these claims.

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