# Estilicon, you punk, I'm calling you out. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376 "2003-02-11T17:03:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/21 "2003-02-11T21:29:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > **Well, mhendo–IMHO, you didn’t read all of Estilicon’s postings in the Space Shuttle thread** You are correct - i had not read those links at all, because i hadn’t noticed them. I’ll go and look at them now and see for myself what the situation is. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/22 "2003-02-11T21:36:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > You certainly do, erislover, espcially if it’s in the Pit to begin with. Fair enough 🙂 Just not my style, s’all. > [@](#): > > My point is that it’s not his English skills that’s causing him to come across as an asshole, it’s his being an asshole that makes him come across as an asshole. I thought that was my point. Hmm. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/23 "2003-02-11T21:50:52Z")
Well, **monty** , i’ve read the posts that you linked to, and while some of **estilicon** ’s posts seemed pretty odd, there were plenty of personal insults flying around from all sides, including yours. These insults, thrown by you and **estilicon** , were not just related to specific posts in that thread, but also included general insults about one another’s stupidity, need for a doctor, etc., etc. When relations between two Dopers descend to that level of invective, then it’s a bit naive to get all offended when it carries over into other threads. I don’t question your right to pit **estilicon** , whenever and however you want, but i’m not sure you can expect too much sympathy when your own behaviour towards that person has not exactly been above reproach. Also, all the threads you linked to were already Pit threads, where Dopers can often expect some less-than-savory insults to be thrown around. Why not just reply in those threads, rather than starting a new one? I was always under the impression that pitting someone, as you’ve done here, was done in order to move the argument away from a rational, level-headed forum (GD, GQ, etc.) to a place where insults were acceptable. When the thread in question is already in the Pit, why bother with a new one? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/24 "2003-02-11T22:12:34Z")
Pit threads have subjects, too. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/25 "2003-02-11T22:28:16Z")
Well, eris; it might be your point & then I’d have to disagree with it if you’re applying that to me. mhendo: I also disagree with your appraisal of my behavior towards Estilcon. At any rate, I’m not looking for sympathy; merely an answer (preferably an intelligible one) from Estilicon. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/26 "2003-02-11T22:30:38Z")
Okay. Now I have to go buy a new key for my keboard. Either that or make darn sure there’s an “i” everywhere it’s supposed to appear, such as in “Estilicon” where it doesn’t appear in my last posting. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/27 "2003-02-11T23:23:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mhendo \* > \*\*Because, at the moment, i’m sorry to say, it’s you who are looking like an over-reacting asshole. \*\* **Monty**? Overreact? Him? Naw. Never happen. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/28 "2003-02-11T23:25:18Z")
Oh, go fuck yourself, chique. You, yet again, prove you don’t have a fucking clue as to what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/29 "2003-02-11T23:32:02Z")
The **Monte Alert** has now gone to ORANGE . High risk of flame attacks. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/30 "2003-02-12T00:13:52Z")
You don’t seriously believe you don’t go off the deep end now and again, do you? ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/31 "2003-02-12T03:09:47Z")
I don’t know what’s with people opening Pit threads lately which are just totally unjustified. Either I am becomeing a dove of the highest order or the drums of war have some people itching for a fight where ever they may find it. Some people need to calm down a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/32 "2003-02-12T03:38:34Z")
Yeah. Take a pill or somethin’, Monty. 😃 I like Estilicon. I like having him around. I like reading his posts. I like hearing the Argentine POV. And I was pleased to find out from the Ramanujan thread (I think) that “Estilicon” isn’t Argentine for “silicon”. Here all this time I’d been thinking of him as a Horta, and he’s not, apparently. “the children…the children…” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/33 "2003-02-12T04:02:48Z")
Actually, DDG, basically I’d be more than thrilled if Estilicon would take a chill pill. As the OP asks: What’s his damage? As for chiques hilarious comment: Chique; are you going to seriously deny that you post stupid stuff just to post it? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/34 "2003-02-12T04:11:58Z")
Fuck me gently with a chainsaw! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/35 "2003-02-12T04:13:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > Either I am becomeing a dove of the highest order or the drums of war have some people itching for a fight where ever they may find it. We always knew you were just a big softie, **sailor**! ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/36 "2003-02-12T04:19:54Z")
Didn’t know I was funny. Glad you appreciated it! 😃 I’d be the **first** to admit I post stupid shit. I wonder, though, what the ratio is between my stupid posts and your knee-jerk, overreacting posts. Anyone anal enough to do a search? Anyone? Bueller? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/37 "2003-02-12T04:30:57Z")
Actually, chique, I am that anal. I just don’t feel moved to do it. ---
**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/38 "2003-02-12T04:34:35Z")
Aw, shucks. :: kicks dirt :: ---
**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/39 "2003-02-12T15:07:45Z")
I can only apologize, it was intended as a joke. If you read again the fuck war thread you’ll notice that there was a controversy between Monty and the rest of the posters: This bit: > [@](#): > > ## The OP: > > ## Listen, I know all you service people are doing what you’re getting paid for. I know it’s a little exciting to FINALLY get to put all your training into effect (Oswald…that’s you. Bomb squad?!? Ahhh!!!) . > > Monty’s answer: > > is just about completely moronic. > > First of all, Service Members are always doing what they’re paid to do (defend their country). Second, the idea is to use armed conflict as a last resort. Third, you apparently don’t keep up with either reality or the daily news: Iraq daily (or nearly daily) locks radar on coalition aircraft and gets the inevitable response for that violation. For the next 3 pages we were involved in a completely hijack discussion about soldiers and their attitude about war. In my opinion the op never said what Monty believed he said. Anyway I thought that in that context it was funny. I am sorry Monty I am still young and stupid I often make jokes without taking into account cultural/religion/age or country differences. Check again the shuttle thread monty you started with the insults. This is the second time you sent me to the pit (you admited you were wrong the last time). This time I can’t complain. My english is not perfect but it is pretty good, the reason why sometimes it seems that my posts belongs to two (or three) different persons is that when in a hurry or angry I start thinking in spanish and translating while typing. Finally it was a cheap shot, I am sorry for doing it. But Monty sometimes you are an asshole, you are too sensitive and you aren’t the nicest person to have a discussion with. Buy a thicker skin, grow a sense of humor and calm the fuck down. p.s. Duck Duck, I love you too. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376/40 "2003-02-12T15:11:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CBEscapee \* > \*\*The **Monte Alert** has now gone to ORANGE . High risk of flame attacks. \*\* You stole my line!!! Anyway, though, its now been moved to Green. So we’re all safe. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/estilicon-you-punk-im-calling-you-out/154376.md?page=3)