# Ethnic Jews v European Settlers Jews **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 9, 2010, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806 "2010-05-09T10:04:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/61 "2010-05-09T22:17:52Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I have made no decision or expressed any position on you as a poster. > However, the site to which you linked and which you quoted excessively (in hard to read colors) is a nutcase site. > > If it were worth the time, I could demolish about 30% of the claims made in that article without even bothering to look up citations and I am sure that I could demolish another 30% if I had to look up information. > > Note one of their key points: that “Jews” are not really “Jews.” It is an old tale of lies and misdirection that is always employed by anti-semitic bigots. (I can explain what they are doing if you are interested.) Anyone who promotes that sort of nonsense, just as anyone who promotes hoaxes such as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, has earned the title nutcase. > As a Moderator, I am required to refrain from taking sides between individuals when a fight breaks out, but as a poster, I have no obligation to refrain from pointing out nutcases. One may take a position in opposition to or as a proponent of the creation of Israel and I will respect that position if seriously argued, even when I disagree. If one repeats truly silly nonsense about Khazars, the real history of which has long been know while the silliness has long been debunked, then I am going to note that the nonsense is spread by nutcases. But he has not yet answered the most important related question: his opinion of the buttocks of the Secretary of State and former First Lady! 😃 Which will leave 7/8 of the board going “Whaaa?” and the surviving 99ers ROFLing ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/62 "2010-05-09T22:18:57Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > But he has not yet answered the most important related question: his opinion of the buttocks of the Secretary of State and former First Lady! 😃 > Which will leave 7/8 of the board going “Whaaa?” and the surviving 99ers ROFLing I’m in the 7/8ths part. I get that you’re talking about Clinton… but whaaaa? ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/63 "2010-05-09T22:19:50Z")
Progress is not being made so let’s stop this now and see what happens in the next few weeks. We can close the thread. Let’s see if the Israeli Navy try to sink one of Turkeys ships. Let’s see what Erdogan will do. Let’s see if the Israeli Navy will attack. My betting is they won’t dare. ---
**Author:** ![Hanako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@Hanako](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanako)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/64 "2010-05-09T22:20:09Z")
I am a pathan and I think we are related to the jews romans and greeks. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/65 "2010-05-09T22:22:39Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > Let’s stop this now and see what happens in the next few weeks. We can close the thread. > > Let’s see if the Israeli Navy try to sink one of Turkeys ships. > Let’s see what Erdogan will do. > > Let’s see if the Israeli Navy will attack. > > My betting is they won’t dare. Whoa whoa whoa… What? Why would Israel attack Turkey? This isn’t about not daring, it’s about not being brain dead. Countries aren’t fourth graders. They don’t start fights just to prove how macho they are. So why would the Israeli navy attack anyone? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/66 "2010-05-09T22:23:01Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > Let’s see if the Israeli Navy try to sink one of Turkeys ships. > Let’s see what Erdogan will do. > Let’s see if the Israeli Navy will attack. > My betting is they won’t dare. … what the fuck? Why the heck would Israel attack Turkey, they’ve been fairly closely aligned on a military level for quite some time now. What are you even talking about? Israel not attacking a friendly nation is proof that they “wouldn’t dare” to, what, start a war witha nation that hadn’t threatened or attacked them first? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/67 "2010-05-09T22:26:20Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Why the heck would Israel attack Turkey, Clearly Israel would attack Turkey to prove our friend Marmite over there wrong, because a country that is constantly under terrorist attack has no needs more pressing than its image in the eyes of a random dude from the 'net. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/68 "2010-05-09T22:27:42Z")
Try switching off Fox. You might then get a clue ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/69 "2010-05-09T22:30:22Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > Try switching off Fox. You might then get a clue Haven’t watched Fox news in ages. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. And BTW, what do you suggest I switch on instead? Al Gezira? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/70 "2010-05-09T22:31:49Z")
Brilliant factual refutation Marmite. Please though, go back to telling us about how vacant the Church of the Holy Sepulcher is during Easter due to those Christian Tickets that Israel gives out. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/71 "2010-05-09T22:32:24Z")
Erdogan didn’t say what he said for nothing. It was a warning clearly. If the Israeli Navy dare to strike one of those ships then we will see what Erdogan is made of. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/72 "2010-05-09T22:34:00Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Brilliant factual refutation Marmite. > Please though, go back to telling us about how vacant the Church of the Holy Sepulcher is during Easter due to those Christian Tickets that Israel gives out. mainly Russians and very few Palestinians ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/73 "2010-05-09T22:34:00Z")
Once again, WHY IN THE LIVING BLOODY GORE-STAINED HELL would Israel attack Turkey? There is absolutely NO REASON UNDER THE BLOODY GODDAMN SUN for Israel to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/74 "2010-05-09T22:36:04Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Once again, WHY IN THE LIVING BLOODY GORE-STAINED HELL would Israel attack Turkey? There is absolutely NO REASON UNDER THE BLOODY GODDAMN SUN for Israel to do that. well we are all waiting here to see what will happen Not my fault you have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/75 "2010-05-09T22:37:47Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > … what the fuck? > Why the heck would Israel attack Turkey, they’ve been fairly closely aligned on a military level for quite some time now. Because that makes it the perfect timing! Turkey would never expect it. Sure, attacking friendly nations for no particular reason is crazy and pointless, but hey, battle plans always have flaws. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/76 "2010-05-09T22:37:56Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > well we are all waiting here to see what will happen > > Not my fault you have no idea. Enlighten us then. I don’t have any idea why Israel would attack Turkey either. It’s like them attacking Italy. It doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/77 "2010-05-09T22:40:05Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Enlighten us then. I don’t have any idea why Israel would attack Turkey either. It’s like them attacking Italy. It doesn’t make sense. Well, attacking Italy makes perfect sense. See, Israel and the US have always been close, and as more and more Americans are becoming obese from eating pizza, Israel is going to avenge the US by attacking the creators of the pizza. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/78 "2010-05-09T22:43:33Z")
You will either see the Israeli Navy on every news station before the end of May or you won’t. Israel will attack or they won’t. Turkey will either succeed or it wont. It is a test and one will win. I think Erdogan is serious, but we will see. This might just be the spark. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/79 "2010-05-09T22:46:09Z")
Netanyahu’s speech today. Did he seem eager to get to the table for the indirect talks? Not that he is serious but he wants to make it look like he is. Just one spark can start a whole blaze. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806/80 "2010-05-09T22:47:05Z")
Please cite your ridiculous idea that either side wants war. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethnic-jews-v-european-settlers-jews/538806.md?page=5)