# Etymology of "Google-fu"?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 10, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197 "2007-07-10T14:26:51Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/1 "2007-07-10T14:26:51Z")

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It is clear from context what people mean by Google-fu, but is this a humorous back-construction from some other kind of “fu”? Or what?

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**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/2 "2007-07-10T14:28:16Z")

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kung

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/3 "2007-07-10T14:42:58Z")

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ISTR that the original “kung-fu is strong” quote originates with Bruce Lee, but I can’t recall what exactly.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/4 "2007-07-10T14:50:16Z")

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The idea of adding “fu” to random words might have been popularized by the film critic Joe Bob Briggs.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/5 "2007-07-10T15:14:34Z")

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Yeah, his reviews would include the vital statistics of the movie. Something like…

“27 dead bodies, 1 rolling head, 3 quarts blood, 4 breasts; 3 car accidents (one with crash-and-burn), kung-fu, shovel-fu, chainsaw-fu. Drive-In Academy Award to Darla Dumplings, as the camp counsellor who gives swimming lessons with a difference (if you know what I mean, and I think you do)…”

The man was a genius.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/6 "2007-07-10T15:20:43Z")

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There was a X-files episode (so we’re talking TV, not the real world) where one of the Men in Black claims that “my kung-fu is better than your kung-fu” in relation to his hacking skills. That might have something to do with it. Or maybe I’m crazy.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/7 "2007-07-10T15:38:13Z")

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IIRC, _fu_ as in _kung-fu_ means _skill_. The _kung_ part? I dunno, maybe _spicy chicken_, as in _kung-pow_ 😉 . So English, in its usual habit of plundering other languages, now has us stapling _-fu_ onto non-Chinese words, like a little boy with a big pack of Post-It® Notes. I haven’t had much practice at this new construction. My _fu-fu_ is weak. :smack:

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/8 "2007-07-10T15:44:06Z")

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
IIRC, _fu_ as in _kung-fu_ means _skill_. The _kung_ part? I dunno, maybe _spicy chicken_, as in _kung-pow_ 😉 . So English, in its usual habit of plundering other languages, now has us stapling _-fu_ onto non-Chinese words, like a little boy with a big pack of Post-It® Notes. I haven’t had much practice at this new construction. My _fu-fu_ is weak. :smack:  
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> [@](#):
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> We don’t just _borrow_ words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. — James D. Nicoll

😃

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/9 "2007-07-10T15:56:41Z")

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
IIRC, _fu_ as in _kung-fu_ means _skill_. The _kung_ part? I dunno, maybe _spicy chicken_, as in _kung-pow_ 😉 . So English, in its usual habit of plundering other languages, now has us stapling _-fu_ onto non-Chinese words, like a little boy with a big pack of Post-It® Notes. I haven’t had much practice at this new construction. My _fu-fu_ is weak. :smack:  
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Does your resistance make you a fu-fighter?

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/10 "2007-07-10T16:24:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin]  
There was a X-files episode (so we’re talking TV, not the real world) where one of the Men in Black claims that “my kung-fu is better than your kung-fu” in relation to his hacking skills. That might have something to do with it. Or maybe I’m crazy.  
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The x-files would have been my guess, too.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/11 "2007-07-10T19:36:58Z")

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One of the first _whatever_-fu references I remember from nerd/internet culture is “script-fu”, which was (is?) The Gimp’s scripting language, which seems to have first been referred to by that name in late 1998. Joe Bob Briggs’ usage definitely predates that, though.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/12 "2007-07-10T19:45:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin]  
There was a X-files episode (so we’re talking TV, not the real world) where one of the Men in Black claims that “my kung-fu is better than your kung-fu” in relation to his hacking skills. That might have something to do with it. Or maybe I’m crazy.  
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\<90s nerd\> Wouldn’t that have been the Lone Gunmen, not the men in black? \</90s nerd\>

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/13 "2007-07-11T03:42:50Z")

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Joe Bob Briggs’s use of “fu” as a suffix definitely predates the TV show _X-Files_.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/14 "2007-07-11T04:31:22Z")

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And of course ‘fu’ is unrelated to hackers’ use of the word ‘foo’.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/15 "2007-07-11T05:45:04Z")

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All this time and not one \*Fu Bird \* joke? You guys are slipping.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/16 "2007-07-11T12:01:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
And of course ‘fu’ is unrelated to hackers’ use of the word ‘foo’.  
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I have always associated the use of ‘foo’ with the use of ‘foobar,’ a variation on fubar that is spelled like it sounds. FUBAR standing for Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.

That is similar to my association with the X-files use of kung-fu and Google-fu, it’s not research, just my association.

I suspect that sometimes words are repopularized, especially when they fit a new context.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/17 "2007-07-11T14:46:50Z")

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[QUOTE=yabob]  
Does your resistance make you a fu-fighter?  
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Resistance is Fu-tile. 😃

My humor-fu is weak. 🆒

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/etymology-of-google-fu/411197/18 "2007-07-11T15:07:13Z")

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[QUOTE=SiXSwordS]  
I have always associated the use of ‘foo’ with the use of ‘foobar,’ a variation on fubar that is spelled like it sounds. FUBAR standing for Fucked Up Beyond All Repair.  
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That’s where it comes from in the context of hacking/programming - ‘foo’ would be the first choice of name for an impromptu variable or procedure. If another was needed shortly afterwards, it would be ‘bar’.
