# EU referendum: with respect, Mr Trump, fuck off. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413 "2016-06-03T19:33:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/61 "2016-06-10T04:12:21Z")
Yes, whenever I hear the words “Trump supporter”, the first thing that pops into my head is “respect”. Same thing happens when I hear the name “Trump” just by itself. “Respect” is just a natural association! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/62 "2016-06-10T09:12:04Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If this forum is anything to go by, Trump supporters have more respect for others and less ego. I’m sure if a parenting forum is anything to go by, child molesters have more respect for others and less ego. You’re comparing a group that is morally reprehensible and intellectually bankrupt to others in terms of the amount of respect they get and give. That’s nonsense. Of course Trump supporters don’t get much respect - they’re _Trump supporters_. If they wanted respect, they shouldn’t have backed a racist, shit-flinging howler monkey with a bad haircut! ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/63 "2016-06-10T09:26:04Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I’m sure if a parenting forum is anything to go by, child molesters have more respect for others and less ego. > > You’re comparing a group that is morally reprehensible and intellectually bankrupt to others in terms of the amount of respect they get and give. That’s nonsense. Of course Trump supporters don’t get much respect - they’re _Trump supporters_. If they wanted respect, they shouldn’t have backed a racist, shit-flinging howler monkey with a bad haircut! Oh my god. More hate. God bless you guys. Let me tell you, your hate actually increases the support for Trump even among neutrals. If you were not blinded by hate, you would have noticed that Trump is a genuine guy who has good intentions and is honest and smart. Even though I support Trump, I think Hillary is also a good candidate but Trump is more dynamic and more honest. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/64 "2016-06-10T10:44:04Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > President Obama’s comments were ill-received to say the least Obama’s comments were ill-received by those who had been merrily insisting that the “special relationship” meant that if Britain left the EU the US would give the UK the bestest special “mates’ rates” trade deals. Obama pointed out that the US would do no such thing. People heavily invested in their illusions tend to get upset by harsh reality checks. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Perhaps if one of the UK major parties were led by a sociopathic bigot then it would be appropriate for American politicians to weigh in on their elections and I welcome their rejection of our sociopathic bigot. > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > So we can go after Nigel Farage, then? And we’ll throw in George Galloway for free! > [@RobDog](#): > > Seriously though, sorry about Piers Morgan. I think I’d feel less guilty if we’d been shipping you nuclear waste hidden inside children’s toys. True, but no givebacks! He’s yours now. If you don’t want him, send him to Kazakhstan or Laos or Burundi or somewhere where they don’t know yet how vile he is. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Btw I thought Putin was quite classy. He said on the lines that he liked Trump but it’s not about him(Putin), it’s up to the people of America to elect him(Trump) or not (its quite obvious that it’s up to the Americans, still classy that Putin mentioned along with his opinion). Trump has now been endorsed by Putin and Kim Jong-Un, autocratic leaders of countries with which the US is in diplomatic contention. Has it occurred to you that maybe the reason Putin and Kim want Trump to win is because they know they can walk all over him? > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Even though I support Trump, I think Hillary is also a good candidate but Trump is more dynamic and more honest. You keep describing Trump as “honest” despite considerable evidence to the contrary. I’m not convinced you’re taking a fact-based approach to this. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/65 "2016-06-10T11:12:48Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Oh my god. More hate. God bless you guys. > > Let me tell you, your hate actually increases the support for Trump even among neutrals. If you were not blinded by hate, you would have noticed that Trump is a genuine guy who has good intentions and is honest and smart. > > Even though I support Trump, I think Hillary is also a good candidate but Trump is more dynamic and more honest. And if you had ears, a brain, and a mouth, maybe you would notice that you’re talking out of the wrong orifice. Trump has run one of the most blatantly dishonest campaigns in the history of this country. Let’s go over some of his best, shall we? Or let me just save time and point ot this list: > **[Fact-checks | PolitiFact](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=donald-trump&ruling=pants-fire)** > > PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter. I mean, holy _shit_. This must be that whole “Truthiness” thing people keep talking about. Who cares how often Trump actually lies, is wrong, contradicts himself, invokes insane conspiracy theories, etc.; he _sounds_ earnest, ergo he must be telling the truth when he says things like that the unemployment rate is as high as 42%, contradicts himself on whether his “publicist” was actually himself, lies about crime being up, says that Marco Rubio is Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator, and says that he never said that Marco Rubio is Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator. What Trump has done is cover each of his lies with more lies, to the point where focusing on any one feels like a waste of time. He’s essentially a “post-truth” candidate, where reality doesn’t matter and being honest is just not a thing you have to do. And then the utter fuckwits of the world clap their hands like retarded baby harp seals with severe clubbing brain damage and crow about how “honest” this serial liar is. Why should I respect you, exactly? Because of cretins like you, the entire rest of the world is laughing at the USA, and we may actually have to face the reality of a President Trump. Look at the topic of this thread, for fuck’s sake. You don’t deserve respect. You deserve all the scorn, derision, and, yes, hate that anyone deserves for making a stupid mistake with the potential to hurt a lot of people when they should damn well have known better. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/66 "2016-06-10T11:42:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Trump has now been endorsed by Putin and Kim Jong-Un, autocratic leaders of countries with which the US is in diplomatic contention. Has it occurred to you that maybe the reason Putin and Kim want Trump to win is because they know they can walk all over him? > > You keep describing Trump as “honest” despite considerable evidence to the contrary. I’m not convinced you’re taking a fact-based approach to this. Putin is a genuine person like Trump. So he likes Trump. Putin is very much liked in Russia and wherever the anti-Putin propaganda is not run by the media. On Syria and Iran, Putin’s stand is more credible and more honest. Same way Trump is an honest and genuine person popular among ~43% population of US. About 46% are polling against him according to polls ATM and he has very small chance of winning because of US demographics and the media propaganda. If Trump wins, US will have better relations with Russia. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/67 "2016-06-10T11:45:07Z")
As an ex pat Brit who still wants my UK passport to be useful I endorse this pitting, and in fact I endorse any and all pittings of Trump for whatever reason. But yeah fuck the entire Brexit campaign. No you will not be fine on your own, the rUK\* will be an irrelevant backwater in 10 years if it leaves the EU. \*remnant UK, since Brexit will lead to Scotland splitting off and remaining in the EU, hopefully wales and NI will follow suit so it can just be lonely england left on it’s own. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/68 "2016-06-10T11:54:21Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Putin is a genuine person like Trump. > **[PolitiFact | Donald Trump](https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/)** > > PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others on its Truth-O-Meter. [www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/opinion/lord-of-the-lies.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/opinion/lord-of-the-lies.html) > **[Why It’s Pointless to Fact-Check Donald Trump](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/02/politics-media-gaffes-lies)** > > The Donald’s whoppers have turned the media focus from gaffes—the fuel of election coverage past—to lies. Just fucking stop. You call yourself a truth seeker, stop supporting people whose opinion of the truth is that they can take it or leave it if it doesn’t serve their interests. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/69 "2016-06-10T12:23:44Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > If Trump wins, US will have better relations with Russia. Putin is hoping that Trump wins because he knows that Trump is clueless about geopolitics and the US long term strategic interests on the world stage and too egotistical to listen to this advisers. Putin would play Trump, flatter him while manipulating him shamelessly and Trump would lap it up while giving away all the US long term interests. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/70 "2016-06-10T13:13:15Z")
I’m guessing that Trump is a major source of entertainment and hilarity in the Kremlin. Even if he doesn’t win the election, the embarrassment he’s causing the US all over the world is already priceless for Putin. Being comedy gold is just a bonus. In the unlikely event that the witless buffoon is actually elected, Putin – who is a ruthless tyrant pursuing an imperialist vision for Russia – will have the opportunity of a lifetime. It’s just one more reason that Trump’s utter cluelessness and paranoid insecurities would not just be a domestic catastrophe but a real danger to the world. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/71 "2016-06-10T14:41:53Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > As an ex pat Brit who still wants my UK passport to be useful I endorse this pitting, and in fact I endorse any and all pittings of Trump for whatever reason. But yeah fuck the entire Brexit campaign. No you will not be fine on your own, the rUK\* will be an irrelevant backwater in 10 years if it leaves the EU. > > \*remnant UK, since Brexit will lead to Scotland splitting off and remaining in the EU, hopefully wales and NI will follow suit so it can just be lonely england left on it’s own. I think EU is a beautiful concept. Only issue is they haven’t properly secured the external borders. I think for UK, the trade and other economy related issues can be sorted out while being part of EU, but the main issue is loose external borders. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/72 "2016-06-10T14:50:56Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Putin is hoping that Trump wins because he knows that Trump is clueless about geopolitics and the US long term strategic interests on the world stage and too egotistical to listen to this advisers. Putin would play Trump, flatter him while manipulating him shamelessly and Trump would lap it up while giving away all the US long term interests. Trump will be friendly be 99% of the countries that USA is friendly with right now. In addition, he will bring new friends in form of Russia, Iran and war torn Syria. Maybe some sort understanding will be formed even with North Korea (I am not sure here) Because such is his personality - upfront, informal, non-elitist, go-getter, experienced in real life (experience in making deals), charismatic personality, good intentions (for everyone to see). People who call him racist really have no clue whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/73 "2016-06-10T21:54:52Z")
Non-elitist? Sure, he flies coach all the time. Not racist? Even lots of Republicans get that he is a racist. Anti-Putin stuff not getting in the media? Is that like anti-Stalin stuff not getting in the media also? That’s called censorship, fascist. I guess you like Trump because you understand the world even less than he does. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/74 "2016-06-10T22:23:30Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Trump will be friendly be 99% of the countries that USA is friendly with right now. In addition, he will bring new friends in form of Russia, Iran and war torn Syria. Maybe some sort understanding will be formed even with North Korea (I am not sure here) > > Because such is his personality - upfront, informal, non-elitist, go-getter, experienced in real life (experience in making deals), charismatic personality, good intentions (for everyone to see). > > People who call him racist really have no clue whatsoever. So in other words, you’re completely and utterly divorced from reality? Good to know. Go shove a cactus up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/75 "2016-06-11T09:27:47Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > So in other words, you’re completely and utterly divorced from reality? > > Good to know. > > Go shove a cactus up your ass. May I direct your attention to post #34 of this thread, and point out that **truthseeker2** is a citizen of India, not an American (or a Brit). He has gone to some lengths to demonstrate that he does not see his interests as coinciding with those who support a robust USA. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I think what he likes best is that Trump’s polickes would be likely to cause the American (and with it, the world’s) economy to crater, leaving an opening for a new economic world order to arise, phoenix-like, from the ashes; an economic world order that will be more just for natioms such as his. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/76 "2016-06-11T18:33:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > May I direct your attention to post #34 of this thread, and point out that **truthseeker2** is a citizen of India, not an American (or a Brit). He has gone to some lengths to demonstrate that he does not see his interests as coinciding with those who support a robust USA. He also seems to be a Hindu nationalist. I wonder what he thinks about Modi and Obama getting along so well together. My guess is that his day job is working the “Windows Company” scam, since he is clearly too stupid for an honest job - even garbage dump rag picker. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/77 "2016-06-11T19:03:19Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > He also seems to be a Hindu nationalist. I wonder what he thinks about Modi and Obama getting along so well together. > My guess is that his day job is working the “Windows Company” scam, since he is clearly too stupid for an honest job - even garbage dump rag picker. I am born in a Hindu family but am not religious. I don’t believe in race also. In this world, only the jihadi Islamic ideology is a problem. Rest all differences can be sorted out. India and USA are natural allies. They should work together for a better world at all times irrespective of administrations. It’s a coincidence that you mentioned windows since I was hired by Microsoft here in India and you would be running some code (very small) written by me on your pc if you are using windows 7or 8. Otherwise I agree, I am stupid in many ways. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/78 "2016-06-12T01:15:04Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > It’s a coincidence that you mentioned windows since I was hired by Microsoft here in India and you would be running some code (very small) written by me on your pc if you are using windows 7or 8. Otherwise I agree, I am stupid in many ways. Do you realize that if Trump gets elected I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to put a tax on work done overseas for American companies? It would be less disruptive than his plan to slap big tariffs on goods manufactured outside the US. You might be out of a job - you should be careful about what you wish for. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/79 "2016-06-12T05:43:08Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Do you realize that if Trump gets elected I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to put a tax on work done overseas for American companies? It would be less disruptive than his plan to slap big tariffs on goods manufactured outside the US. You might be out of a job - you should be careful about what you wish for. Nothing will happen for India-US ties, only the H1B visas may get cut. The relation is balanced (no major trade deficit). The leaders have decided to take annual trade from $100bn now to $500 bn in a few years. With China, the US has a large trade deficit and Trump will mainly want to fix that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413/80 "2016-06-12T07:13:38Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > {…} he will bring new friends in form of {…} Iran {…}. Maybe some sort understanding will be formed even with North Korea {…} Did you bring enough of whatever drug(s) allowed you to write that for the whole class? CMC fnord! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eu-referendum-with-respect-mr-trump-fuck-off/756413.md?page=5)