# Eureka starts tonight!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 10, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280 "2007-07-10T23:35:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/1 "2007-07-10T23:35:16Z")

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Anyone watching? Anyone?

So when do we find out how it is that Jack Carter & Zoe saw themselves driving out of town, as they were driving into town?

Looking forward to some good Carter & Stark bickering. Like an old married couple, those two.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/2 "2007-07-10T23:45:30Z")

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Gonna be an interesting season from what I’m hearing around the net. Ferguson is going to be at Comic-Con in a couple of weeks, and we are really looking forward to seeing him and getting to see an episode before the rest of the country does. Looks like the first few episodes are fairly angsty, but still with the funny.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/3 "2007-07-10T23:54:36Z")

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I haven’t heard anything at all about the new season. I’m just glad it got renewed.

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### Author: ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/4 "2007-07-11T00:20:42Z")

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I’ll be watching! I just today finished the dvds of Season One.

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/5 "2007-07-11T03:59:26Z")

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I found myself looking forward to it, and I thought they delivered a good ep. WTH is up with Evil Henry?

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/6 "2007-07-11T04:12:50Z")

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“Ok, that’s new.”

😃

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### Author: ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/7 "2007-07-11T04:38:57Z")

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Wow… So Dark Is the Con of Henry.

And Kevin’s gettin’ freaky.

And Salli Richardson is still hot.

And so is Erica Cerra.

And Jordan Hinson is still a bad actress.

And the show is still as good as it’s always been.

Yay, Eureka!

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### Author: ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/8 "2007-07-11T05:08:12Z")

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:eek:

Bad Henry! Bad! Now he’ll be carrying all that angst, and Carter won’t even know why Henry has it in for him. ☹

On the other hand…it’s my belief that, since Carter had foreknowledge of his relationship with Allison and was actively trying to win her back, he was going to change that bit of history. Now that he’s ‘doing it over’, he’s probably got a better shot at regaining the life he had.

Kickass way to start the season, even if it is more angst than I expected.

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### Author: ![Fir\_na\_tine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Fir\_na\_tine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fir_na_tine)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/9 "2007-07-11T11:58:57Z")

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[QUOTE=cmyk]  
Wow… So Dark Is the Con of Henry.

Yay, Eureka!  
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I’ve been banging my head on the keyboard for an hour or so with no success. Where the hell have I heard that line before?

Interesting show. I vaguely recall seeing somewhere that Henry was only going to appear in a few episodes this season.

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### Author: ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/10 "2007-07-11T14:22:12Z")

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“So dark is the con of man” is an anagram from The Davinci Code. 😉

It transposed into Madonna of the Rocks.

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/11 "2007-07-11T14:56:45Z")

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_Evil_ Henry is right. He was pretty vicious dealing with Carter and the mind wipe. I think this next bit was from the preview, but not 100% sure.Now he wants to work for Global DynamicsAlready not liking the thread with Allison’s kid. Hopefully they’ll take it somewhere different - right now it looks very predictable. Also hope they actually move the conspiracy somewhere this year.

Gotta love a show where _deus ex machina_ is standard operating procedure.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/12 "2007-07-12T04:33:39Z")

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Wow, that was kinda dark & angsty. Even the lighter moments have an edge. “I’m going to go shower. I’m covered in human.”

Please, please don’t let the show revolve around the prodigy child.

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### Author: ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/13 "2007-07-12T04:50:29Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
_Evil_ Henry is right. He was pretty vicious dealing with Carter and the mind wipe.  
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I was turning this over in my mind, since I have a habit of overanalyzing stuff I really don’t need to, and I can see Henry’s actions taking him down one of two paths:

He wiped Carter’s mind but not his own in order to remember that trying to save Kim would unravel the universe; after all, if he wiped his own memory, all he would know is that Kim died and he would eventually try to go back a second time to save her…

Or he wiped Carter’s mind but not his own in order to have the freedom to find a new way to save Kim that doesn’t involve universe-unraveling. Had Carter kept his memories, he’d be alert to Henry working on a secret project of that sort. This way, he can work unhindered.

I would like to think it’s the first possibility, but the Global Dynamics spot at the end (I think it was the end of the ep, not the preview) suggests the second; the mad scientist needs more resources than his garage would provide. Henry’s probably being set up as a tragic villain, which is…er, tragic.

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### Author: ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/14 "2007-07-12T06:03:23Z")

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I want to watch the show that’s promised in the credits. The actual show is kinda boring and lacking in, well, fun.

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### Author: ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/15 "2007-07-12T12:00:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
I want to watch the show that’s promised in the credits. The actual show is kinda boring and lacking in, well, fun.  
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Naw, it’s a very interesting, fun show. Don’t know which one you were watching.

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### Author: ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/16 "2007-07-12T12:41:19Z")

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I like the show, but sometimes get the impression that the writers are guys who grew up watching television sci-fi, and never actually cracked one of them book things we used to have. (It’s still fun, but I’d like to see what a real sf writer would do with the premise.)

I’m glad to see Joe Morton (Henry Deacon) getting regular work, once again playing a conflicted scientist working outside the system (as in _Terminator 2_ and on “Smallville”). I don’t know how smart the actor is, but he’s very believable as a genius.

It occurs to me that Ed Quinn, who plays Nathan Stark, would have been good as Tony Stark in _Iron Man_.

You want a _deus ex machina_? Henry will _build_ you a _deus ex machina_.

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### Author: ![BaneSidhe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BaneSidhe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaneSidhe)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/17 "2007-07-12T13:20:50Z")

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daHubby and I were so glad to see Eureka come back on Sci-Fi. They have kindasorta redeemed themselves in my eyes doing this and getting Dr. Who.

Anyway, Henry’s going to work for Global does not bode well. I smell nasty things on the horizon.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/18 "2007-07-12T16:29:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
You want a _deus ex machina_? Henry will _build_ you a _deus ex machina_.  
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I was just a bit worried they were writing Ed Quinn off the show. Their science directors don’t seem to last long, but I’m relieved he’s still around. But what role will he play now? Does he have a job at all? Was he simply demoted, or is he fired completely from Global Dynamics? Seems like he would be after his latest stunt. I guess if you’ve got sufficient brains, you’re free to hang around Eureka, doing _something_.

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### Author: ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/19 "2007-07-12T17:09:56Z")

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I wasn’t pleased at all with the episode. It’s plunging into territory that’s altogether too dark and ansty for me. I don’t need another dark, angsty show. Eureka was fun last year because it had a light touch without being lightweight. I really, really hope they don’t lose that. Getting all serious is the lazy way out; it’s been done a thousand times before.

Does anyone else besides me find the artifact really annoying? I’m much happier with impossibly advanced inventions gone awry. And I also don’t like that kid.

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### Author: ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eureka-starts-tonight/411280/20 "2007-07-12T17:29:45Z")

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Crap - missed it.

Podcast, here I come…

Note to self - **Series** record on DVR

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