# EURO 2012 Poland/Ukraine \[OPEN SPOILERS\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 2, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883 "2012-06-02T18:19:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/501 "2012-06-24T20:41:21Z")

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Big drop-off second half, simply can’t keep hold of the ball. Very lucky Italy haven’t scored.

Germany will be very happy to see this one going to extra time.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/502 "2012-06-24T20:41:31Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Bring on overtime! (It is called overtime right?)

_extra_ time, but you are excused due to your enthusiasm!

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/503 "2012-06-24T20:44:30Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> If he’s as talented as those guys, I would have thought he’d have impressed me more this game.

Really? I’ve seen TO disappear for whole games, including multiple drops. It’s what comes with being a headcase sometimes.

Balotelli’s goal against Ireland in this same tournament was pretty sharp.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/504 "2012-06-24T20:47:26Z")

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That was very polite of England to hold up the ball until the defense was in place.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/505 "2012-06-24T20:57:13Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Really? I’ve seen TO disappear for whole games, including multiple drops. It’s what comes with being a headcase sometimes.

True, and if the only time I saw TO was in those games that he disappeared, I’d be expressing the same opinion of him. But for all the face time he gets, and all the chances he’s had this game, I should be more impressed. If it’s an off game for him, I completely understand, but it just seems to my untrained eye that his team has given him the chances to be a stud, and he hasn’t. There’s still time though.

Extra extra time!? Double extra time!? Super Extra time!? Extra time Dos!?

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**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/506 "2012-06-24T20:59:11Z")

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An entertaining quote from the BBC Text Commentary:

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> To paraphrase Monty Pyton, apart from hitting the post twice, missing from four yards, testing Joe Hart on numerous occasions, having one cleared from the line by Joleon Lescott and shooting over from two yards, what have the Italians done against us?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/507 "2012-06-24T20:59:52Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> True, and if the only time I saw TO was in those games that he disappeared, I’d be expressing the same opinion of him. But for all the face time he gets, and all the chances he’s had this game, I should be more impressed. If it’s an off game for him, I completely understand, but it just seems to my untrained eye that his team has given him the chances to be a stud, and he hasn’t. There’s still time though.
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> Extra extra time!? Double extra time!? Super Extra time!? Extra time Dos!?

Extra time is, now, always 2 15 minutes periods. Then penalties.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/508 "2012-06-24T21:02:40Z")

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> [@MJinks](#):
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> An entertaining quote from the BBC Text Commentary:

Classic.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/509 "2012-06-24T21:08:15Z")

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Where is di Natale?  
Oh! Offside goal.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/510 "2012-06-24T21:09:51Z")

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Italy finally get the goal, but offside!

Our one advantage right now, if we do get to penalties, is there an Italian forward in the game who hasn’t already missed a great chance?

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/511 "2012-06-24T21:10:05Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Where is di Natale?  
> Oh! Offside goal.

3 subs already; the last one (Maggio for Abate) seemed to be because of injury, rather than tactics.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/512 "2012-06-24T21:12:29Z")

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> [@polar\_bear](#):
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> 3 subs already; the last one (Maggio for Abate) seemed to be because of injury, rather than tactics.

I missed one of those, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/513 "2012-06-24T21:14:23Z")

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This should be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/514 "2012-06-24T21:15:49Z")

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Gotta go with Buffon, right?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/515 "2012-06-24T21:16:25Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> Italy finally get the goal, but offside!
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> Our one advantage right now, if we do get to penalties, is there an Italian forward in the game who hasn’t already missed a great chance?

As bad as the finishing has been by both sides, they should give the game to the first team who scores.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/516 "2012-06-24T21:16:35Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Gotta go with Buffon, right?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/517 "2012-06-24T21:17:10Z")

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What is the consensus (if any?) on deciding a two hour game with penalty kicks? I guess I understand it during the “regular season” because you don’t want to subject fans to unending pain, but for huge games like the playoffs, why not play until they’re dropping?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/518 "2012-06-24T21:18:45Z")

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Remember Jens Lehmann and his notepad against Argentina? I’d like to see a keeper come out with a laptop sometime.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/519 "2012-06-24T21:19:37Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> What is the consensus (if any?) on deciding a two hour game with penalty kicks? I guess I understand it during the “regular season” because you don’t want to subject fans to unending pain, but for huge games like the playoffs, why not play until they’re dropping?

They’re often close to dropping anyway. I think the level of play would drop very quickly and perhaps you’d just have each team packing their own box.

In theory of course. Maybe it’d work out better in practice. Each team had 120 minutes to break through, sometimes you have to settle.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/520 "2012-06-24T21:21:12Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> What is the consensus (if any?) on deciding a two hour game with penalty kicks? I guess I understand it during the “regular season” because you don’t want to subject fans to unending pain, but for huge games like the playoffs, why not play until they’re dropping?

> **[Soccer may get rid of penalty kicks to decide games](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653253)**
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> Does any other major sport have such a bogus way to decide games in tournaments/playoffs? I know the NHL uses them but not for the playoffs. The solution is simple - make it easier to score and you have way less need for this crap.

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