# EURO 2012 Poland/Ukraine \[OPEN SPOILERS\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 2, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883 "2012-06-02T18:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/641 "2012-07-01T20:32:27Z")
Mata! 4-0. Wow! ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/642 "2012-07-01T20:33:50Z")
Put a lid on it: this Spanish team will go down in history as one of the all time best. First and only team to with The Euros back-to-back & manage to get a miserly World Cup in between. Viva España! Euro 2012 Champions, 2010 World Champions & Euro 2008 defending Champions! * * * I am one happy SOB! Do tears count against that? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/643 "2012-07-01T20:35:03Z")
And now one can say that [“este arroz ya se cocio!”](http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1273321) ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/644 "2012-07-01T20:52:44Z")
Congrats to Spain. Great performance to cap the tournament. You can only tip your hat to them. Finally, we can get to the real business of summer, the transfer season! By the way, it was funny before the match when they showed the starting XI for each squad and I saw how small Alba is. Somehow, Barcelona have managed to get even smaller by signing him! Abidal was one of their few big players. Bunch of midgets there…very, very talented midgets. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/645 "2012-07-01T20:54:32Z")
Can they sell the victory trophy to Germany for some bailout money? 😃 Hey, congrats. Viva España! ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/646 "2012-07-01T20:56:31Z")
Ha, funny tweet from Barry Glendenning from The Guardian: _John Terry a conspicuous absentee from these celebrations._ ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/647 "2012-07-01T21:00:41Z")
What a win! Spain’s first half was perfection. As a German supporter, I was heavily disappointed after losing to Italy, but now I’m kind of glad that we didn’t have to face this great team. Congrats to Spain, we’ll see you in 2014 in Brazil. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/648 "2012-07-01T21:05:07Z")
Can’t disagree with the victory, Spain deserved it in 2008, 2010 and 2012 and will certainly go down in history as one of the greatest. No one has retained the Euro championship and certainly not with a bonus world cup in between! ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/649 "2012-07-01T21:07:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Can they sell the victory trophy to Germany for some bailout money? 😃 > > Hey, congrats. Viva España! Dipshit! 😃 But thanks a bunch anyway! Nothing can ruin my evening! Not even getting Maced. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/650 "2012-07-01T21:11:57Z")
Many congratulations to Spain. They have gears that other national sides at the moment just cannot access. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/651 "2012-07-01T21:12:45Z")
Gotta feel it for Italy. They were outplayed true but they the worst luck of any team in a major final. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/652 "2012-07-01T22:23:17Z")
What an interesting match! A bit of the old _“I’m actually left-handed”_ trope in here, almost like Spain had been saving their energies the whole tournament for the eventual final. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/653 "2012-07-01T23:35:44Z")
Perhaps the greatest international team of all time. What a display. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/654 "2012-07-02T00:22:04Z")
This isn’t the right thread for this, but I’m not going to start a new one just for this. David Beckham, who was very upset at being left off England’s Olympic team after all the work he did to help them get the bid, took out his frustrations on the pitch last night. First was a [trademark curling free kick](http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/david-beckham-curls-trademark-free-kick-la-getting-033137879--sow.html;_ylt=AomQrdGNi6maQbgwrPtrOV4LcykA;_ylu=X3oDMTFoZnA0Y2I3BG1pdANCbG9nIEluZGV4IGJ5IEF1dGhvcgRwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCbG9nSW5kZXg-;_ylg=X3oDMTFrODdzYXZuBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANhdXRob3IEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3) that went in that left the opposing keeper flat-footed. A better kick, though, came in stoppage time when an opponent was writhing around in fake pain trying to run the clock out. From 30 yards away, Beckham took a drop kick that managed to hit the player on the ground and deflect into the ref’s face. I guess the Olympics thing and Katie and Tom breaking up were too much. Scroll down on that page to see the second video. Oh, and also notice how quickly the severely injured player jumps up and sprints toward Beckham after getting hit. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/655 "2012-07-02T00:46:28Z")
Now the question is, when the trophy gets to Madrid, is Sergio Ramos allowed to hold it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/656 "2012-07-02T01:17:10Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Now the question is, when the trophy gets to Madrid, is Sergio Ramos allowed to hold it? 🙂 I suspect, on this one, the Spanish will throw him under the bus. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/657 "2012-07-02T02:08:12Z")
As a Barca fan, I can really only support Ramos when he’s playing for La Roja. But here’s hoping the trophy remains inside the bus. ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/658 "2012-07-02T02:54:19Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > What a win! Spain’s first half was perfection. > > As a German supporter, I was heavily disappointed after losing to Italy, but now I’m kind of glad that we didn’t have to face this great team. > > Congrats to Spain, we’ll see you in 2014 in Brazil. This was my feeling as well. Die Mannschaft would have gotten their butts kicked by this Spanish squad. Amazing performance, well-deserved trophy. Of course, then I came across a bunch of photos of teammates trying to comfort Mesut Ozil and got depressed again. 2014 can’t come soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/659 "2012-07-02T07:54:03Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > This was my feeling as well. Die Mannschaft would have gotten their butts kicked by this Spanish squad. Amazing performance, well-deserved trophy. > > Of course, then I came across a bunch of photos of teammates trying to comfort Mesut Ozil and got depressed again. 2014 can’t come soon enough. 2014 promises much. Looking at the ages of the Spain and Germany squads you’d have to imagine that the Germans will be continuing to improve whilst the Spanish may plateau or even drop off slightly. So I’d still be putting those two as favourites for the World Cup regardless of Italy’s performance here. I for one won’t be complaining if we get to see more of the same quality of football as last night. England? back to school I’m afraid. We’ve put off the major changes required for a good 30 years and it’ll be at least a decade before we can get back to “competent” and that is assuming the FA decide to do anything about it. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883/660 "2012-07-02T12:46:24Z")
You could say that having a player get injured after making all three subs is unlucky, but you could also say it was bad management. I get the feeling some managers like to throw on all 3 subs at once because it is the most dramatic thing they can do to influence the game, and if it works it is about their only chance of getting more headlines than the players. When it doesn’t work, though, it looks silly and when it backfires like it did last night, you have to question it. On the other hand, the game was lost unless something dramatic happened and I don’t suppose many Italians care whether they lost 2-0 or 4-0, so maybe it’s harsh to criticise the move. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euro-2012-poland-ukraine-open-spoilers/623883.md?page=34)