# Europa Universalis IV pre-order

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 5, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217 "2013-06-05T16:28:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/41 "2013-08-17T14:31:49Z")

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Ah…I’ll have to do a little experiment and see what that does for me. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/42 "2013-08-17T15:53:15Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> You automatically collect income from your local trade node (having a merchant there gives a +10% bonus to income). So you can usually make better use of your merchants elsewhere.

Depends on how the numbers shake out - early on, you may be correct, but later as trade values rise having another merchant pointing trade to you could be a much better investment.

Mercantilism can be priceless now. It was a good option for large empires in EU1-3, but now since you’re not mostly concerned with your home trade node/s anyway, it’s arguably even better. Not that you can’t make a small but fabulously wealthy trading empire instead.

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**Author:** ![XanderCrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ee59a6/32.png) [@XanderCrews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XanderCrews)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/43 "2013-08-17T16:30:41Z")

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How does production work? I see that Toledo is producing plenty of gold, but I am only getting a few ducats worth of value from my entire country.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/44 "2013-08-18T00:53:45Z")

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> [@XanderCrews](#):
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> How does production work? I see that Toledo is producing plenty of gold, but I am only getting a few ducats worth of value from my entire country.

Yeah, but it’s _one province_. It’s basically feeding the gold straight into your treasury with a value far greater than any other possible production, month after month, forever. The downside is that you should beware of inflation, because gold provinces crank that up slowly. The Economic ideas are useful to push it back down, as are the right advisors.

As Spain, the best move is probably to take either Exploration, Offensive, or Aristocratic first, then fill out with the remainder of one of the military techs or Exploration. Because of the way ideas work, you’re probably best off choosing an Admin idea third, because otherwise you’ll spread you points painfully thinly.

Also, France is a titanic prick.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/45 "2013-08-18T08:58:59Z")

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Caved and bought it. Lots to learn - still haven’t even begun to figure out trade.

About 45 seconds ago I did figure out how to construct buildings in multiple provinces all at once - how convenient!

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/46 "2013-08-19T06:02:25Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I really don’t understand how trade works.

[EU4 Trading for Dummies](http://imgur.com/a/A1Hk1).  
There are two more detailed explanations[in this forum](http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?811-EUIV-FAQ), you’ll need to create an ID and then register EU4 to get access.

> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Damn game plays slow on my computer.

If you’re getting jerky lagginess, that should be fixed in the next patch. FYI on both my Mac and my PC laptop it absolutely flies, I can’t even play at top speed.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europa-universalis-iv-pre-order/660217/47 "2013-08-29T16:50:30Z")

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For those still struggling with game concepts, **arumba07** has a series of short guides on Youtube. Some of the more notable ones:

[Trade Nodes and Flow](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNnvsaxUTUg&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Merchants](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYQALTC_Zn4&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Trade Steering](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tnSQ5mTbq8&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Rivals](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adRkgphw-hY&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Embargoes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3utb0ECjWDk&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Taxes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHq-KAAUl3M&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Tariffs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abc3EcX0EN0&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Inflation](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5-BU4SzxM&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Maintenance Sliders](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OS2t7UQ6SY&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Strategic Goods](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRHRfllNmCI&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Colonization](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on2f4kuPG2U&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Government Types](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjg4hhw_Uh4&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)  
[Ideas](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE-eHcQKZHg&feature=share&list=PLH-huzMEgGWBz8XAD77YTwMe6wx-Ql_Ao)

They’re all quite short; most are less than 5 minutes long. Even if you think you have a handle on how the game works, they’re worth watching as there are still little nooks and crannies that you might have missed.

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