# Europe has become far too liberal, and now it's destroying the entire continent **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/1 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")
The Euro has failed. They have banned guns in most countries. They have socialist “universal” healthcare, they have driven away almost all major corporations, they have created an unfriendly market for the private sector, their economy is tanking worse than America, many of the EU countries no longer have functional governments (Belgium, Italy, etc.), the Muslims are starting to take over Europe (they even have Sharia Courts now), they have school uniforms in some of their public schools, their government funded higher education system is of absolute shit quality, they have to pay higher taxes, and they lack proper freedom of speech. And that’s just scratching the surface. By all means, please add to the list. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/2 "2011-04-20T03:06:22Z")
So what’s wrong with school uniforms? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/3 "2011-04-20T03:07:36Z")
It’s all true. I don’t give Europe more than another thousand years. ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/4 "2011-04-20T03:10:35Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > So what’s wrong with school uniforms? What isn’t wrong with them? They only purpose they could ever possibly serve is to force teenagers to become a hive mind instead of individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/5 "2011-04-20T03:11:25Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > The Euro has failed. They have banned guns in most countries. They have socialist “universal” healthcare, they have driven away almost all major corporations, they have created an unfriendly market for the private sector, their economy is tanking worse than America, many of the EU countries no longer have functional governments (Belgium, Italy, etc.), the Muslims are starting to take over Europe (they even have Sharia Courts now), they have school uniforms in some of their public schools, their government funded higher education system is of absolute shit quality, and they lack proper freedom of speech. > > And that’s just scratching the surface. By all means, please add to the list. Uh, cite? ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/6 "2011-04-20T03:11:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s all true. I don’t give Europe more than another thousand years. A thousand years? That’s being generous. They’re already crumbling beyond repair. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/7 "2011-04-20T03:12:30Z")
It’s okay to be jealous, Samus. We Yooros don’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/8 "2011-04-20T03:13:00Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > What isn’t wrong with them? They only purpose they could ever possibly serve is to force teenagers to become a hive mind instead of individuals. Some countries won’t let kids have any pudding if they don’t eat their meat. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/9 "2011-04-20T03:14:39Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > The Euro has failed. They have banned guns in most countries. They have socialist “universal” healthcare, they have driven away almost all major corporations, they have created an unfriendly market for the private sector, their economy is tanking worse than America, many of the EU countries no longer have functional governments (Belgium, Italy, etc.), the Muslims are starting to take over Europe (they even have Sharia Courts now),\*\* they have school uniforms in some of their public schools, \*\*their government funded higher education system is of absolute shit quality, they have to pay higher taxes, and they lack proper freedom of speech. > > And that’s just scratching the surface. By all means, please add to the list. Many public schools in the U.S., and damn near all private schools, have uniforms. Anyway, anyone want to take any bets on how long it’ll be before this ends up in the pit? ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/10 "2011-04-20T03:15:07Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Some countries won’t let kids have any pudding if they don’t eat their meat. What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/11 "2011-04-20T03:16:23Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Many public schools in the U.S., and damn near all private schools, have uniforms. Actually only 2% of schools have uniforms in America, and those are all city schools that only implemented them temporary due to gang colors. Most states don’t have any public schools with uniforms, such as my state. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/12 "2011-04-20T03:16:40Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > What are you on about? He’s agreeing with you, that they certainly don’t need any thought control. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/13 "2011-04-20T03:18:41Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > What isn’t wrong with them? They only purpose they could ever possibly serve is to force teenagers to become a hive mind instead of individuals. I think that anybody who thinks that the clothes they wear make a difference in their actual (and not perceived) individuality is already past the point of having the problem explained to them. EDIT: > [@samusaran253](#): > > Actually only 2% of schools have uniforms in America, and those are all city schools that only implemented them temporary due to gang colors. Most states don’t have any public schools with uniforms, such as my state. What state is this? Denial? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/14 "2011-04-20T03:19:25Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Some countries won’t let kids have any pudding if they don’t eat their meat. Well, how can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/15 "2011-04-20T03:19:25Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > He’s agreeing with you, that they certainly don’t need any thought control. Nor dark sarcasm. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/16 "2011-04-20T03:19:36Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > He’s agreeing with you, that they certainly don’t need any thought control. Agreed. I couldn’t imagine if they had uniforms when I was in high school, I would probably have killed myself as a teenager. Remember, a person may be intelligent, but people are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/17 "2011-04-20T03:21:18Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > Agreed. I couldn’t imagine if they had uniforms at I was high school, I would probably have killed myself as a teenager, since I’m pro-individuality and anti-hive mind. Remember, a person may be intelligent, but people are stupid. I just wish teachers, would leave those kids alone. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/18 "2011-04-20T03:22:32Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > A thousand years? That’s being generous. They’re already crumbling beyond repair. It’s ok. [They have glue over there.](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gorilla-Glue-1044400-115ml/dp/B001W030E0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1303269715&sr=8-4) ---
**Author:** ![Amasia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Amasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amasia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/19 "2011-04-20T03:24:08Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I just wish teachers, would leave those kids alone. Those kids should make a stand and declare that they don’t need no education. ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/20 "2011-04-20T03:25:05Z")
> [@Amasia](#): > > Those kids should make a stand and declare that they don’t need no education. What are you even talking about? And what does this have to do with Europe failing? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045.md?page=2)