# Europe has become far too liberal, and now it's destroying the entire continent

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/221 "2011-04-21T01:13:28Z")

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Islam is taking over France? I suspect that’ll be news to the French.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/222 "2011-04-21T01:17:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You mean like Vatican City?

false dichotomy, I have no respect for the vatican state either, however that is not a “new” problem. I feel though that the vatican church has been tamed much more than the house of islam

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/223 "2011-04-21T01:18:31Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> You sir fail. Nobody considers “Eurasia” to be a continent but uptight pseudoscientists.

You are demonstrating a nearly unbelievable level of ignorance, I’m afraid. Europe is only a “continent” because the people who livede there 2300+ years ago used the Red, the Mediterranean, and the Black Seas to divide up the world as they saw it (with their limited knowledge of the Earth). Later Europeans clung to that division for cultural reasons that had nothing to do with geography as a science. There is nothing “pseudoscientific” about recognizing Eurasia as a single continent.

(I say nearly unbelievable ignorance because it is very clear that you are very young, mking your ignorance more understandable.)

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/224 "2011-04-21T01:18:47Z")

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Who let all this riff-raff into the room?

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/225 "2011-04-21T01:19:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Islam is taking over France? I suspect that’ll be news to the French.

ask the jews in sweden in certain areas, Jews are warned to travel to certain cities in this northern country.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/226 "2011-04-21T01:22:45Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> ask the jews in sweden in certain areas, Jews are warned to travel to certain cities in this northern country.

The Jews in Sweden are warned to travel to certain cities and therefore Islam is taking over France?

I think you need another run at that post.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/227 "2011-04-21T01:24:23Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> 1. best example is france

There must be some mistake.  
If that’s your best example, Europe is quite safe from the [del]Brown[/del] [del]Yellow[/del] Crescent Peril.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Islam is taking over France? I suspect that’ll be news to the French.

Quite so 🙂  
But we did ban burqas recently, didn’t we ? Maybe it was a typo on **scamartistry** ’s part and he meant to write “Islamophobia is taking over France” which is closer to the mark. But that’s not quite true either. We just want these women from a desert land to make us feel like real men.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/228 "2011-04-21T01:26:10Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The Jews in Sweden are warned to travel to certain cities and therefore Islam is taking over France?
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> I think you need another run at that post.

I’d love to see you defend scientologists in the same “pretending not to understand mannerism”. Why do you celebrate the fact that islam looks down on women and hate gay people? Is that something we need more of, I think we have enough of that in the western world. Let’s call a spade a spade

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/229 "2011-04-21T01:27:03Z")

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Oh behave yourselves you cultural bullies, now you’re just confusing him.  
Your Honour, please let me take him home.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/230 "2011-04-21T01:27:47Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> There must be some mistake.  
> If that’s your best example, Europe is quite safe from the [del]Brown[/del] [del]Yellow[/del] Crescent Peril.

why are you so fixated on people’s skin color, get over it. thoughts and world views are much more important

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/231 "2011-04-21T01:27:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Islam is taking over France? I suspect that’ll be news to the French.

Do not underestimate the hordes of Islam! They’re. Just. That. Sneaky.

I think their plan involves replacing people with pods at some point…

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/232 "2011-04-21T01:30:32Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Oh behave yourselves you cultural bullies, now you’re just confusing him.  
> Your Honour, please let me take him home.

the PC police has arrived - and their best comedian in one.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/233 "2011-04-21T01:32:14Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Do not underestimate the hordes of Islam! They’re. Just. That. Sneaky.

That’s a great answer mr der thris. you are such a laugh. Are you in awe of the islam mindset, please give me some meat

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/234 "2011-04-21T01:34:13Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> That’s a great answer mr der thris. you are such a laugh. Are you in awe of the islam mindset, please give me some meat

_Somebody wants pudding!_

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/235 "2011-04-21T01:35:38Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> ask the jews in sweden in certain areas, Jews are warned to travel to certain cities in this northern country.

I thought they were warned to give 'em a short, sharp shock?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/236 "2011-04-21T01:36:44Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> the PC police has arrived - and their best comedian in one.

Ah yes, the bleeding hearts and artists. They do so tie our hands, don’t they ? If it weren’t for them we could flay Muslims into shape. Instead we let them get away with murder !

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/237 "2011-04-21T01:37:56Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> _Somebody wants pudding!_

cute…either you think sharia law is a good idea or you do not. We should fight these bronze age ideals at the door. What is your defence

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/238 "2011-04-21T01:41:45Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> I’d love to see you defend scientologists in the same “pretending not to understand mannerism”. Why do you celebrate the fact that islam looks down on women and hate gay people? Is that something we need more of, I think we have enough of that in the western world. Let’s call a spade a spade

I don’t understand because you’re not making sense. You said Islam was taking over France. There is no evidence of this. You offered up as an example of this something extremely vaguely happening to Jews in Sweden, which has nothing to do with Muslims in France as far as I can tell.

I’m also not sure how you’re reading anything into my posts suggesting that I am somehow “celebrating” Islam’s persecution of women and gays. I’m not saying that Islam is sunshine and rainbows; I’m not even saying that many Muslims do not hold abhorrent attitudes. What I am saying - and I trust I’m being clear here - is that Islam is not taking over Europe, and that you are wrong in saying that it is.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/239 "2011-04-21T01:43:14Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> cute…either you think sharia law is a good idea or you do not. We should fight these bronze age ideals at the door. What is your defence

I think Sharia Law is stupid. I also think other religious laws are stupid. Honestly, I think every single religion on Earth is stupid.

That doesn’t make the laughable misinformation you think is real not-stupid however.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/240 "2011-04-21T01:43:57Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> 1.no, why?  
> 2. best example is france

1. Opal Akbar!

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