# Europe has become far too liberal, and now it's destroying the entire continent **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/241 "2011-04-21T01:44:08Z")
Well I guess everything is fun and games if you live in a good neighborhood somewhere safe, however reality elsewhere is not always as pleasant [Muslim attacks of Swedish jews](http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4441467&ct=8971903) I don’t see this as a laughing matter, sorry. It is astonishing to me that people are still defending this kind of behaviour ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/242 "2011-04-21T01:45:40Z")
Nobody is defending that behavior, except in your mind. And Sweden persists in not being France. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/243 "2011-04-21T01:46:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Quite so 🙂 > But we did ban burqas recently, didn’t we ? Maybe it was a typo on **scamartistry** ’s part and he meant to write “Islamophobia is taking over France” which is closer to the mark. But that’s not quite true either. We just want these women from a desert land to make us feel like real men. And then, when you feel like real men, the Arab men are right there! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/244 "2011-04-21T01:48:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And Sweden persists in not being France. That’s just what the Swedes _want_ you to think! Admittedly, they want you to think that because it’s _true_, but that’s just a detail. ---
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/245 "2011-04-21T01:49:18Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Nobody is defending that behavior, except in your mind. And Sweden persists in not being France. you dont have to be a genius to see the symptoms. People are still defending this clearly racist religion. I still want to hear some rationale why people got a soft heart for islam ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/246 "2011-04-21T01:50:25Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > Well I guess everything is fun and games if you live in a good neighborhood somewhere safe, however reality elsewhere is not always as pleasant > > [Muslim attacks of Swedish jews](http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4441467&ct=8971903) > > I don’t see this as a laughing matter, sorry. It is astonishing to me that people are still defending this kind of behaviour No one is laughing. No one is defending it. By the way, is America falling to _Black Law_ because white dudes can get attacked in some neighborhoods? Are we falling to _White Law_ because black dudes can get attacked in some neighborhoods? I’m from Hawaii, perhaps we’re falling to _Polynesian Law_ because there are places where my lilly-white ass could get beat up in Waianae. Or, conversely, maybe you’re hysterically overreacting because it fits a narrative that soothes your prejudices? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/247 "2011-04-21T01:51:25Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > you dont have to be a genius to see the symptoms… Obviously. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/248 "2011-04-21T01:52:45Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And then, when you feel like real men, the Arab men are right there! 🙂 Islamopophobia is akin to sayin scientology-phobia. the only difference is in numbers. I don’t subscribe to any of then tenants of islam, it is a racist, misogynist worldview. Is that pathologic, I don’t think so ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/249 "2011-04-21T01:53:55Z")
You want people to defend things they haven’t said in response to things you’ve said that didn’t make any sense? It’s a sad state of affairs when random Pink Floyd lyrics are the most coherent part of a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/250 "2011-04-21T01:54:57Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > Islamopophobia is akin to sayin scientology-phobia. the only difference is in numbers. I don’t subscribe to any of then tenants of islam, it is a racist, misogynist worldview. Is that pathologic, I don’t think so Tenets. Tenants of Islam are guys who rent rooms at the Kaba. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/251 "2011-04-21T01:56:15Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > Who let all this riff-raff into the room? There’s one smoking a joint! **checks** Hell, they are ALL smoking joints! Ahh, spots too! ---
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/252 "2011-04-21T01:56:16Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > No one is laughing. No one is defending it. > > By the way, is America falling to _Black Law_ because white dudes can get attacked in some neighborhoods? Are we falling to _White Law_ because black dudes can get attacked in some neighborhoods? > > I’m from Hawaii, perhaps we’re falling to _Polynesian Law_ because there are places where my lilly-white ass could get beat up in Waianae. > > Or, conversely, maybe you’re hysterically overreacting because it fits a narrative that soothes your prejudices? what does “over-reacting” mean? I see a problem and I react, this is a problem that could be solved. By the way we are not talking about Polynesia, USA, Hawaii. This was specifically refering to Europe. If you have the ability to fight a problem at the door, why not do it? According to you, no fight is worth having because they still have a dictatorship in North Korea ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/253 "2011-04-21T01:57:38Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > you dont have to be a genius to see the symptoms. People are still defending this clearly racist religion. I still want to hear some rationale why people got a soft heart for islam Read the bible lately? > [@Gyrate](#): > > You want people to defend things they haven’t said in response to things you’ve said that didn’t make any sense? > > It’s a sad state of affairs when random Pink Floyd lyrics are the most coherent part of a thread. Amen. ---
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/254 "2011-04-21T01:57:50Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Tenets. Tenants of Islam are guys who rent rooms at the Kaba. thanks girlfriend, you are bringing a lot to the discussion ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/255 "2011-04-21T01:58:56Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > what does “over-reacting” mean? I see a problem and I react, this is a problem that could be solved. > By the way we are not talking about Polynesia, USA, Hawaii. This was specifically refering to Europe. If you have the ability to fight a problem at the door, why not do it? > > According to you, no fight is worth having because they still have a dictatorship in North Korea Not at all. According to me some neighborhoods are bad places full of poverty and ignorance. And people perceived as different or unwelcome in those places can get attacked. See, this is what we call reasoning. You look at facts and derive opinions from them. We don’t go in search of facts that support our unexamined intuitions. Ya dig? ---
**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/256 "2011-04-21T01:59:00Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > Read the bible lately? I hope you are not serious with this one… ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/257 "2011-04-21T01:59:26Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > you dont have to be a genius to see the symptoms. People are still defending this clearly racist religion. Interesting. First you whine that some other poster was too interested in “color.” Now you make the absurd and clearly false claim that Islam is “racist.” > [@scamartistry](#): > > I still want to hear some rationale why people got a soft heart for islam No one posting in this thread has expressed a “soft heart for Islam.” Instead, a number of posters have ridiculed your histrionics and utterly absent “logic.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/258 "2011-04-21T02:00:08Z")
Frankly I’m more concerned about the Hottentots in my neighbourhood who are raping grannies and eating babies. You may say that this isn’t happening but that’s because you’re celebrating granny rape and baby eating. You _monsters_. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/259 "2011-04-21T02:01:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Frankly I’m more concerned about the Hottentots in my neighbourhood who are raping grannies and eating babies. You may say that this isn’t happening but that’s because you’re celebrating granny rape and baby eating. You _monsters_. Mmm… dibs on the grey-hair with the tennis balls on her walker… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/260 "2011-04-21T02:02:15Z")
> [@scamartistry](#): > > you dont have to be a genius to see the symptoms. People are still defending this clearly racist religion. I still want to hear some rationale why people got a soft heart for islam Well… I’ve always had a deep respect, and I mean that, most sincere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045.md?page=14)