# Europe has become far too liberal, and now it's destroying the entire continent

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**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/21 "2011-04-20T03:26:22Z")

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Joke threads go in MPSIMS, you know.

> [@samusaran253](#):
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> The Euro has failed.

The Euro is currently trading at a 12 month high against the dollar and has about a 30% share of the global reserve currency market, which is an all time high.

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> They have banned guns in most countries.

So what? There are no bears or coyotes to shoot in Europe. Just people.

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> They have socialist “universal” healthcare…

Every other developed state has socialist universal healthcare. It’s only the US that clings to the antiquated and inefficient private health industry.

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> …they have driven away almost all major corporations…

Of the world’s 10 largest companies by revenue, 3 are domiciled in Europe. 2 are based in the US, and the remainder are Chinese and Japanese.

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> …they have created an unfriendly market for the private sector, their economy is tanking worse than America, many of the EU countries no longer have functional governments (Belgium, Italy, etc.), the Muslims are starting to take over Europe (they even have Sharia Courts now)…

These are all either nonsensical or too subjective to refute.

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> …they have school uniforms in some of their public schools…

Terrible, I know. It’s only a short stem from a starched collar to communism.

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> …their government funded higher education system is of absolute shit quality…

Compared to what? [It seems to be rather effective, generally](http://www.educationalpolicy.org/pdf/global2005.pdf).

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> …they have to pay higher taxes…

In exchange for which they receive broader and better government services.

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> …and they lack proper freedom of speech.

I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/22 "2011-04-20T03:27:12Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> **Europe has become far too liberal, and now it’s destroying the entire continent**

😕 Europe is destroying Europe? Or, the subcontinent of Europe is destroying the continent of Eurasia?

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/23 "2011-04-20T03:27:18Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Nor dark sarcasm. 🙂

Especially not in the classroom.

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**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/24 "2011-04-20T03:29:10Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> 😕 Europe is destroying Europe? Or, the subcontinent of Europe is destroying the continent of Eurasia?

You sir fail. Nobody considers “Eurasia” to be a continent but uptight pseudoscientists.

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**Author:** ![Amasia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Amasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amasia)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/25 "2011-04-20T03:30:57Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> What are you even talking about? And what does this have to do with Europe failing?

Please provide some sort of citation besides your own random thoughts so that you can constructively engage in debate (if that is indeed your purpose) or your arguments shall be reclassified as yet another brick in the wall.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/26 "2011-04-20T03:32:51Z")

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> [@Amasia](#):
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> Those kids should make a stand and declare that they don’t need no education.

Either that or run like hell.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/27 "2011-04-20T03:34:17Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> What state is this?

There are so many possible responses to a straight line like this, I think I just suffered a micro-stroke trying to pick the best one.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/28 "2011-04-20T03:34:58Z")

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> [@Amasia](#):
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> Please provide some sort of citation besides your own random thoughts so that you can constructively engage in debate (if that is indeed your purpose) or your arguments shall be reclassified as yet another brick in the wall.

Win.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/29 "2011-04-20T03:38:54Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> You sir fail. Nobody considers “Eurasia” to be a continent but uptight pseudoscientists.

It feels like we’ve always been at war with Eurasia. While some people think of it as the happiest days of our lives, most just wish we’d bring the boys back home.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/30 "2011-04-20T03:40:54Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> What are you even talking about? And what does this have to do with Europe failing?

They are making what we left-wing liberal eggheads like to call “Cultural References”.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/31 "2011-04-20T03:51:07Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> They are making what we left-wing liberal eggheads like to call “Cultural References”.

And referencing a socialist band while they’re at it.

How young would someone have to be to not get that joke? 22?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/32 "2011-04-20T03:56:02Z")

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Europe is indeed being destroyed. Destroyed through plate tectonics. The Islamic Jihad Plate is slowly pushing Middle Eastern and North African landmasses north and west across the Mediterranean, which is pushing the Italian peninsula into the heart of Europe like a dagger. The Alps are like a giant scab over this wound, but the wound is so severe as to be fatal. Europe will cease to exist as a recognizable landmass within the next 150 million years.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/33 "2011-04-20T03:58:59Z")

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i roflcopter all over this thread.

😛

What’s a liberal again? A liberal is _progressive_ and closely aligned with social contract theory. Whatever hurts the citizen population is _regressive_, so I’m not sure what you’re yapping about.

There’s nothing _progressive_ about fascism or subjugation of religious groups or a failed economy due to colonialist tendencies and dependence on foreign oil. :o

Also, school uniforms have been linked to decreased violence and better grades. Only in America do we think that educating our children in a professional environment is a bad thing. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/34 "2011-04-20T03:59:52Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Europe is indeed being destroyed. Destroyed through plate tectonics. The Islamic Jihad Plate is slowly pushing Middle Eastern and North African landmasses north and west across the Mediterranean, which is pushing the Italian peninsula into the heart of Europe like a dagger. The Alps are like a giant scab over this wound, but the wound is so severe as to be fatal. Europe will cease to exist as a recognizable landmass within the next 150 million years.

This is what we get for electing Obama.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/35 "2011-04-20T04:00:34Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> And referencing a socialist band while they’re at it.
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> How young would someone have to be to not get that joke? 22?

I think a radio would have to be foreign to you.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/36 "2011-04-20T04:01:52Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> I think a radio would have to be foreign to you.

Maybe he doesn’t listen to oldies stations.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/37 "2011-04-20T04:02:37Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Win.

Why thank you 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/38 "2011-04-20T04:09:53Z")

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Ok, I’ll play. US has become far too conservative, and now it’s destroying the entire continent.

The dollar has plummeted. They have guns everywhere. They have no “universal” healthcare, they have driven almost all major corporations offshore, they have created an unfriendly market for the private sector, their economy is tanking, many of the cities and states no longer have functional governments, the religious right are starting to take over, they have school uniforms in some of their private schools, their for profit higher education system is of absolute shit quality, they have to pay higher taxes, and they lack proper freedom of thought.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/39 "2011-04-20T04:15:10Z")

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> [@samusaran253](#):
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> You sir fail. Nobody considers “Eurasia” to be a continent but uptight pseudoscientists.

As a psuedoscientist, I tend to agree. The fall of Europe was predicted long ago; hear the words of the prophet Abdul Alhazard who spoke the following: “That which is not dead can eternal lie…and with strange aeons even death may die…remember Yog Sothoth is the gate!”

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/40 "2011-04-20T04:16:07Z")

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> [@Implicit](#):
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> Ok, I’ll play. US has become far too conservative, and now it’s destroying the entire continent.

Damn. First Europe and now America. And according to recent threads, Africa’s a write-off too. Pretty soon we’re not going to have any continents left.

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